9 cleansing breaths

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9 cleansing breaths

Postby Snovid » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:01 pm

I have a book Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche in which he describes how to perform
but I heard the rumored in the Dzogchen the same practice looks different.

Could any of you give me a description?
Without it, I can start doing guru yoga.
I am from Poland I use google translator I do not know English
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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby Nilasarasvati » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:47 am

Do you have a teacher who can show you? Without one, you probably shouldn't be doing guru yoga :thinking:

If you do have one but are just too far or something, you might need to look up a video. Like mudras, it's almost impossible to accurately instruct somebody how to do this in text.
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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby Dronma » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:55 pm

Hello Snowid. :smile:

There are many different versions of the 9 cleansing or purification breathings.
Always depending on the transmission, we have to follow the exact instructions we received from our teacher.
It is not good and safe to search instructions on the web for those things.
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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby Sönam » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:30 pm

Nilasarasvati wrote: Without one, you probably shouldn't be doing guru yoga :thinking:



Regarding that point, you can always do GY ... with your living master or any master you have a relation with. It's always ok!

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By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby Lhasa » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:55 pm

Hi Snowid,
You can write to Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche and tell him you want to do this and ask for permission/blessings. He teaches Dzogchen from the Bon tradition. Ligmincha.org is his website and you can send an email to him through their contact email address. Just put his name in the subject line.
How he teaches 9 Breathings is different from that of the Dzogchen Community. But it is still Dzogchen, just Bonpo Dzogchen. :smile:
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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby heart » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:38 am

There is not one particular Dzogchen style of nine breathings, there are many many different. I am sure the same is true in Bon.

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Re: 9 cleansing breaths

Postby mutsuk » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:15 am

heart wrote:I am sure the same is true in Bon.

True indeed. The one given by TW is a simplified version based on the Ma-rgyud practice. There are other styles of this practice, including that of the Phyag-khrid, that of the Kun-bzang 'khor-ba kun-'dren, etc. Some are simple to the extent of being very very unelaborated (with only a very slight movemen of the hand and fingers closing the nostrils) and others involve yogic movements, similar to that one finds in the six yogas.
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