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I am practicing Dzogchen. Especially in trekcho while I rest naturally whether in the laying position or sitting position it is often happened that my body suddenly jolt with emitting sound. In that moment, I feel I am not the body and witnessing all of that happening spontaneously.
What is actually happened? Is it normal or dangerous?
Hope somebody can shed light on this topic.
Dronma wrote:It is better to relax and let it go.
However, this is my personal opinion.
The best is to ask directly ChNN Rinpoche.
Tenpa wrote:...And that practice particularly is associated with the dakini (thugthig, sogthig tsedrub) practice, because it has a relationship with the power of shakti. ...
Tenpa wrote:Yes, well...I am not a Hindu.
I have read about Kundalini that kind of stuff. But I don't practice that. I just do trekcho...relax.
Just now I've done an experiment....It seems that maybe connected with some tension build up when I close my eyes (even that I did it lying down. The tension is somekind 'inner'). When I do with an open eyes, I feel that some energies are coming out from the eyes mingled with the environment. Anyone has been experiencing like this?
As you have noted, "energy" is coming out of the eyes. This is true. Keep your eyes half open during meditation. This acts like a saftey valve.
Salomon wrote:Perfectly normal to me.
You will be surprised how much your body will move on its own while your practice Trekcho. This is a kind of purification.
So don't worry and keep going until your reach the point of freedom from self.
Rely on your insights, they have been a tremendous help to me. Sometimes, you will need knowledge from others like what you are doing right now.
You are doing great. Wish you all the best.
ClearblueSky wrote:What you're experiencing pretty much sounds to me like what is referred to as a hypnic jerk, which is a common experience while falling asleep. I too have jolted and let out a sound or yelp with this, be it meditating, lying in bed, or falling asleep on a long plane ride. Not saying it's a good or bad thing, and maybe as your meditation gets deeper it is in someway giving your brain/nervous system some signals that it is about to fall asleep.
Be careful, you are coming across as someone who is qualified to offer advice on Trekcho, which I'm sure you are not (I come to this conclusion by reading your various comments on Trekcho)
I mean this with respect, but it is very easy to shift from the role of aspiring practitioner to someone who thinks their limited practice experience has allowed them to dispense advice to others. This can cause obstacles and false expectations for beginners. This is why in Dzogchen and Mahamudra, we rely on the Masters (or those appointed by them). Not people who have read a few books, attended a couple of retreats and attached huge importance to their 'experiences'.