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China party official warns members over religion

Postby Mr. G » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:12 pm

BEIJING (AP) — Religious practice among Chinese Communist Party members is increasing and threatens its unity and national leadership, a top party official said in remarks reported Monday.

Party members are required to be atheists and must not believe in religion or engage in religious practice, said Zhu Weiqun, a member of the party's Central Committee and executive vice director of its United Front Work Department in charge of dealings with nonparty groups.

Religious practice is a growing trend, especially in areas inhabited by ethnic minorities, and must not be tolerated, Zhu said in comments published in the latest edition of the main party theoretical journal, Qiushi, and reported by the official Xinhua News Agency


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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby AlexanderS » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:46 pm

Scary regime that is.

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Sorry catmoon...this thread ain't abt ya.... :lol:

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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby catmoon » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:33 pm

Oh great, now I see the future. For the rest of my mortal days, I'm going to have to put up with being referred to as Chairman Meow.
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby edearl » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:43 am

HHDL: "My confidence in venturing into science lies in my basic belief that as in science so in Buddhism, understanding the nature of reality is pursued by means of critical investigation: if scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims."

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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Thug4lyfe » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:25 pm

Soundz like a good thang to me, dat means more people are becoming religious in da political circle. Not to mention there are masters actually doing positive work to help China getting back to it's Buddhist roots,

More positive than haters overseas.
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Beatzen » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:12 am

I went through a phase where I read Marx religiously. I never found anything explicitly hostile to spirituality. It's a materialistic analytical scheme, but I'm of the opinion that they take that opiate of the masses line far out of context. If Marxism was a religion, most of the chinese leadership would have to be excommunicated. They're neo-liberals masquerading as socialists. The Chinese should actually study Marx if they want to keep up their red flag cherade
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Postby catmoon » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:01 pm

Ah Marx. I think his only serious error was that he understimated the human potential for corruption, and the consequent difficulty of finding morally qualified people to lead his visionary governments. As for the opiate of the masses, he may have been generally right. How many people hide away in their religions, their churches and temples just to escape reality?
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Postby Beatzen » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:51 pm

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Postby Beatzen » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:14 am

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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:10 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Beatzen » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:29 pm

"Cause is not before and Effect is not after"
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:48 pm

Karl Marx talked about the inherent contradictions of capital that give rise to an impoverished proletariat and that the social/historical consequences of this dialectic will be the collapse of capitalism and the institution of a proletarian centred political/economic/social structure.

You are talking about Karl Marx right? Not Groucho, Harpo or Chico Marx? Right???

Or maybe you read the Smith and Keynes translation of his works?
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:10 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby zangskar » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:17 pm

A famous economist once said all of modern economics is just a commentary on Wealth of Nations, which is also true in a way, though it's certainly something of a simplification. The view that Marx doesn't represent anything really new is only true in terms of what has became modern, formalized neoclassical economics. From the point of view of the history of "mainstream" economics then yes, Marx was basically an insignificant German economist who hardly deserves to have his name mentioned. But that's certainly only true within that narrow subject, and completely wrong from the point of view of either political or social science, or history more generally.

Beatzen, you "Read Marx religiously" but you don't know what the First International is. :zzz:

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Re: China party official warns members over religion

Postby Beatzen » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:40 pm

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