Meditating in nature

Discussion of meditation in the Mahayana and Vajrayana traditions.

Re: Meditating in nature

Postby dharmagoat » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:21 pm

porpoise wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:For example, I enjoy the sound of distant thunder, but if I hear a jet plane fly high overhead I resent the intrusion. Actually, the two sounds are almost identical.

Yes, I know what you mean. It's like with natural sounds there is nobody to blame. ;)

Absolutely.

So we sit in silence as aspiring Buddhas, poised to blame and reject. Sounds that annoy us serve to remind us of this discrepancy.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby catmoon » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:43 am

porpoise wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:For example, I enjoy the sound of distant thunder, but if I hear a jet plane fly high overhead I resent the intrusion. Actually, the two sounds are almost identical.


Yes, I know what you mean. It's like with natural sounds there is nobody to blame. ;)


Interesting. I think you have quite a point there.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby invisiblediamond » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:52 am

dimeo wrote:Buddha sat under the bodhi tree in the deer garden. I've noticed there is a tradition in Buddhism of finding stillness in nature and meditating in the forest. Perhaps in the silence and stillness it is easier to practice and realize enlightenment than in the noisy busy cities? Certainly something in me is obsessed / craving being outside and in nature. After being cooped up a concrete cage all week, I need to get out for a walk and get some fresh air.

In many places around the world that are near the equator, it's pretty much always warm and there are few walls and glass windows. I live far from the equator, and today it's about 45f / 7c outside and I'm thinking about what layers I'd need to wear in order to stay warm if I'm sitting still and meditating outside in the forest. I'd also need a good insulated cushion under me doesn't absorb the ground wetness. I'm thinking a thermos of hot green tea might be good too.

Anyone want to talk outdoor gear or meditating in nature? Thoughts? Suggestions?


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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby dharmagoat » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:09 am

invisiblediamond wrote:The beach

Sandflies.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby duckfiasco » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:24 am

dharmagoat wrote:
invisiblediamond wrote:The beach

Sandflies.

Adorable :heart: Do they itch?
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby dharmagoat » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:36 am

duckfiasco wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:
invisiblediamond wrote:The beach

Sandflies.

Adorable :heart: Do they itch?

When you stop walking they catch up and so can make sitting on the beach a very trying experience.

Their bite feels just like a mosquito bite, but often you are bitten by a dozen at a time. People unaccustomed to their bites can suffer quite extreme itching and swelling.

In places in New Zealand like Fiordland, I have heard that hundreds can swarm around you at once. They particularly like ankles, but will bite you anywhere they get the chance.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby duckfiasco » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:51 am

I never knew what those little hopping things were called. I also didn't know they thirsted for human blood.
I trust there's a way to sit at the beach without getting swarmed by them :rolleye:
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby futerko » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:04 am

duckfiasco wrote:I never knew what those little hopping things were called. I also didn't know they thirsted for human blood.
I trust there's a way to sit at the beach without getting swarmed by them :rolleye:


The hopping ones I've encountered don't bite, they are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talitridae
as opposed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandfly

You can get repellent for them.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby dharmagoat » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:36 am

futerko wrote:You can get repellent for them.

You can, but it is unpleasant stuff. I prefer to avoid them altogether by sitting in the forest.

I have also thought about getting a portable sandfly/mosquito net.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby futerko » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:53 am

dharmagoat wrote:
futerko wrote:You can get repellent for them.

You can, but it is unpleasant stuff. I prefer to avoid them altogether by sitting in the forest.

I have also thought about getting a portable sandfly/mosquito net.


There are some natural alternatives. One entry in Wikipedia reads, "Catnip oil (Nepeta species) (nepetalactone against mosquitos) (although attracts cats)" :shock:
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby dharmagoat » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:49 am

futerko wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:
futerko wrote:You can get repellent for them.

You can, but it is unpleasant stuff. I prefer to avoid them altogether by sitting in the forest.

I have also thought about getting a portable sandfly/mosquito net.

There are some natural alternatives. One entry in Wikipedia reads, "Catnip oil (Nepeta species) (nepetalactone against mosquitos) (although attracts cats)" :shock:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_rep ... al_sources

That is quite a list.

I have noticed that sandflies stay away when I apply cold-pressed olive oil to my arms and legs. It is likely that it has a volatile oil that has the same effect.
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby Martin007 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:05 pm

I've also found that meditating on the top of a hill is very conducive, maybe something about the feeling of spaciousness?
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Re: Meditating in nature

Postby seeker242 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:36 pm

porpoise wrote:
dharmagoat wrote:For example, I enjoy the sound of distant thunder, but if I hear a jet plane fly high overhead I resent the intrusion. Actually, the two sounds are almost identical.


Yes, I know what you mean. It's like with natural sounds there is nobody to blame. ;)


Unless you consider an airplane to be a natural sound to begin with. :tongue:
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