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Pali Term: Sati

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Re: Pali Term: Sati

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Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:06 am

Hi Daniel,

Thank you for your attention.
If you would like to discuss with me any questions about my personal motives, opinions, etc., please write me personal messages.

IMHO, all the personal-oriented posts, innuendos, pamphlets, proclamations, etc. are offtopic here.

What I'm interested in this thread is how Buddha defines "sati" in the Pali Canon. If you can offer substantiated opinion, please do so.
So far hardly anyone in this thread except for me has made a substantiated case for this or that meaning of "sati".
I am grateful to Piotr, Sekha and Porpoise for some remarks that have been to the point, to Tilt for helping me to explore my patience, and to you for introducing me to the depths of Western Academia labeling culture. Your "definitionalist" and "provincionalist" are certainly gems in my collection.

I'll be unlikely to reply to futher offtopic in this thread.

Best wishes, Dmytro


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Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Sylvester » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:38 pm

It would be rather remiss of me to not acknowledge Dmytro's willingness to refine the connotations of sati over the course of the discussion. Pls give him the credit due even if you view him as not being fully accommodating our personal opinions on the matter.

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Re: Pali Term: Sati

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"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby danieLion » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:43 am

In the context of the bodhipakkhiyādhammā (Wings to Awakening/Aids to Enlightenment), sati functions as (following Reverend Thanissaro's renderings) a "frame of reference" (paṭṭhāna), a "faculty" (indrīya), a "strength" (bala), a "factor of awakening" (sambojjhaṅga), and as a factor of the Noble Eightfold Path (ariya-magga). Furthermore, if we tally each of the thirty-seven qualities that comprise the bodhipakkhiyādhammā by appearance per one of the Seven Sets of the bodhipakkhiyādhammā we find that next to samadhi (which gets the most "hits" at eight) sati gets seven "hits", tying it with "persistence" (viriya) for the second most "hits."

This not only shows the broadness and depth of the uses, meanings and "definitions" of sati, but also the importance of sati in virtually every aspect of practice.

And the importance of precisely defining sati is further diminished significantly by the fact "right view" (sammā-diṭṭhi) only gets one "hit" in the bodhipakkhiyādhammā.

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