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Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

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Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby starter » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:03 pm

Hi friends,

I'm a bit confused about the removal of our clinging to views. Today I read:

"… look at the drawbacks that come from clinging to a view, one of the major drawbacks being that you inevitably get into arguments with other people."
-- but how about right view? Should we use right view only for our own detachment and letting-go, not for helping others?

"When you see that views really can't express the truth about things [how about right views?], and that holding onto them is going to cause you to suffer, you can cut through your attachment to them."

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Re: Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby clw_uk » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:08 pm

Right view is non-clinging, if you have Right View then you dont cling to Right View
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Re: Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby Reductor » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:19 pm

Right view goes too. It is a matter of when, which is important. Often enough we see people trying to dispense with their right view before they've dispensed with their ego clinging. So there are those that argue with others, telling them 'let go your views, let go your views' all the while clinging to their view that those other's view ought to be let go of.

However, once you have reached a point where you've let go of most, or all, right view, you may still explain the path of practice and experience with right view. After all, it was with your right view that you abandoned right view, so obviously that right view that you had clung to is of fruit and benefit. But when those to whom your explaining that view don't understand, you will be still be calm and not inclined to strident argument with them on account of this right view; however, when they are inclined to understand, you will still be calm, and you will explain further.

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Re: Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby starter » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:52 pm

Hi friends,

Thanks a lot for your very helpful comments and advice.

I just read the following:

"Right view leads you away from suffering because it allows you to do two things. First, you can use it as a tool to uproot your clinging to everything else. Then, because it teaches you to recognize all your attachments wherever they are, it teaches you how to turn around and let go of right view itself."

"If you learn how to make your views right and then apply those right views to understand how the mind creates suffering, that's how views ultimately take you beyond views. Your right view will show you how to let go of right view when you need to. But don't be too quick to drop it. Don't be the sort of person who leaves the raft on the near shore and tries to float through the air over the river. Use the raft when it's helpful. That's why the Buddha left it behind for us. That's what it's for."

-- Meditation4

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Re: Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby plwk » Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:52 am

As someone remarked to me once...'Don't sink the boat before/while crossing over to the Other Shore' :tongue:

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Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:01 am

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Re: Remove our clinging to RIGHT views also?

Postby Alex123 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:10 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby Alex123 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:20 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby Alex123 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:21 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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