The Shurangama Sutra

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Re: The Shurangama Sutra

Postby vinodh » Mon May 04, 2009 1:37 pm

Sanskrit Chanting of the Surangama Mantra:

The Chanting is not very clear.

Follow the chant using this: ... angira.pdf


yo dharmaṁ paśyati, sa buddhaṁ paśyati

One who sees the Dharma, sees the Buddha
śālistamba sūtra

na pudgalo na ca skandhā buddho jñānamanāsravam
sadāśāntiṁ vibhāvitvā gacchāmi śaraṇaṁ hyaham

Neither a person nor the aggregates, the Buddha, is knowledge free from [evil] outflows
Clearly perceiving [him] to be eternally serene, I go for refuge [in him]

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Re: New Shurangama Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:05 am

BTTS has a new, one volume, translation of the sutra, with excerpts from Master Hsuan Hua's commentary:

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Re: the Mantra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Tue May 04, 2010 1:40 am

Here is the audio & a phonetic, line-by-line chanting of the mantra:

And now a slower version:

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Re: The New Surangama Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:09 am

Here are some brief comments by a disciple of Master Hua, Richard Josephson. A practitioner & Bhikshu for 10 years, he sees the sutra as really a practice manual. It is from his website:

Surangama Sutra
by Richard Josephson

If you want to understand the philosophy of the Tathagatagarbha School there are
better texts than the Surangama Sutra; if you want experience the Nature of Mind this
is the text for you. The Surangama Sutra is first and foremost a practice text. Its aim is
not to provide answers, but rather to teach us to ask the right questions. The basic
thesis is that enlightenment eludes us because we don't know how to inquire properly.
We approach enlightened knowledge the same way we approach any other form of
knowledge; after all, how else can we approach it? We are common people whose
minds are conditioned to think in a particular way. This is the way we have gained
knowledge of our world and the people in it life after life, and unfortunately we know
no other way of thinking. The Surangama Sutra aims to introduce us to a new way of
thinking that will open doors that have been locked for many lifetimes.

The Surangama Sutra is not a text for the arm-chair bodhisattva. It is a
no-holds-barred how to text for attaining self-realization. Its form is so conceptually
simple that unless we put the words into actual practice we may never realize its
intention. As an intellectual undertaking it is a walk in the park; the difficulty lies in its
application; which can take years if not lifetimes to master. It is therefore a text more
for serious practitioners than scholars.

The Surangama Sutra is a manual of meditation for all levels of understanding. If you
have been meditating for decades and have considerable skill, it will do two things for
you. One, it will help you go deeper. No matter what form of meditation you practice,
the wisdom of the Surangama can easily be woven into it. Two, and this is very
important, it can help us avoid meditative self deception, which causes us to grasp and
become attached to meditative states, thereby turning wholesome states into
unwholesome ones.

If you are a novice, and bewildered by a path that seems so vast as to lack an entrance,
the Surangama's simplicity will bring you comfort by providing a beginning, something
you can sink your teeth into and do. You can begin right away meditating correctly,
what you achieve will depend entirely on your own sincerity and effort.

This particular translation of the Surangama Sutra, published by the Buddhist Text
Translation Society, is the best available for several reasons. First and foremost it was
done by a committee of translators, some of whom had the good fortune to listen to a
multi-year daily lecture of the Sutra by the Tripitika Master Hsuan Hua, an enlightened
master who until his passing was head of the Chan lineage of Chinese Buddhism and
himself a master of the Sutra. Hearing the entire text, with the Master's commentary,
was of great benefit to the translators, one that is passed on to us as readers. Moreover,
the principle translators are themselves lifelong Buddhists and practitioners of the
Sutra. One person on the committee of translators has memorized the entire Sutra.
Another holds a Phd in Buddhist studies and taught Asian Philosophy for thirty years
at San Francisco State University. In short, all on the committee of translators are
themselves, individually, qualified to translate this Sutra, all the more so as a team
working to honor the Sutra by producing a translation that accurately conveys the
meaning and is therefore a reliable practice text.

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Re: Free e-book of Shurangama Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:59 pm

July 15, 2014 the e-book of the new sutra translation will be available for free: ... sutra.html

EDIT -wrong date
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Re: Free e-book of Shurangama Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:09 pm

Will wrote:July 14, 2014 the e-book of the new sutra translation will be available for free: ... sutra.html" onclick=";return false;" onclick=";return false;" onclick=";return false;

Actually, it appears that it will be available for free starting July 15, which is my birthday. What a nice birthday present!
The truly undisturbed mind is not a private experience; it is more "public". - Dza Kilung Rinpoche

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Re: The Shurangama Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:53 pm

Here is the new BTTS revised translation of the sutra, with selected comments by Master Hua: ... lation.pdf

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Re: The Shurangama Sutra

Postby JKhedrup » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:43 pm

The Buddhist Text Translation Society is pleased to announce that The Surangama Sutra: A New Translation ebook will be made available for free to download from July 15, 2014. Since it was published in 2009, thousands of copies have been sold around the world, and it has become our most popular English title

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Re: The Shurangama Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:18 am

Here is how the Introduction to the new version begins:

For over a thousand years, the Śūraṅgama Sūtra — the “Sutra of the Indestructible” has been held in great esteem in the Mahāyāna Buddhist countries of East and Southeast Asia. In China the Sutra has generally been considered as important and has been as popular as the Lotus Sūtra, the Avataṁsaka Sūtra, the Mahāyāna Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra, the Heart Sūtra, and the Diamond Sūtra. The appeal of the Śūraṅgama Sūtra lies in the broad scope of its teachings and in the depth and clarity of its prescriptions for contemplative practice...

More specifically, the Śūraṅgama Sūtra has traditionally been regarded as a complete and practical manual for spiritual practice that will eventually lead to enlightenment. It gives instruction in the correct understanding of the Buddha-nature, which is the potential within all beings for becoming a Buddha. The Sutra explains how and why this true nature is hidden within our ordinary experience of ourselves and of the world, and it shows how we can uncover this nature and recognize that it is our own true mind.

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Re: The Shurangama Sutra

Postby DGA » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:20 pm

The basic thesis is that enlightenment eludes us because we don't know how to inquire properly.


The notion that this Sutra is a practice manual has real merit. I'd like for it to be better known as such.
DGA's PhD dissertation, a history of "mindfulness," is available here: ... _OF_STRESS

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