Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

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Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:27 am

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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby conebeckham » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:56 am

Good ol'' Yogi Chen!
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:31 am

That was actually translated by his student, Yutang Lin.
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Sherab Dorje » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:55 am

It's times like these that you need a Buddha face palm graphic.
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Huifeng » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:25 am

dzogchungpa wrote:That was actually translated by his student, Yutang Lin.


Wah?!? Lin Yutang was a student of Yogi Chen? Who'd thunk it?

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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:57 pm

Huifeng wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:That was actually translated by his student, Yutang Lin.

Wah?!? Lin Yutang was a student of Yogi Chen? Who'd thunk it?

Ha ha, not that one, this one:
http://www.yogichen.org/gurulin/elist/glin_e.html
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Simon E. » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:42 pm

****Name Dropping Old Fart Alert****


I met Yogi Chen :smile:
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:46 pm

Simon E. wrote:****Name Dropping Old Fart Alert****


I met Yogi Chen :smile:

When was that? I've always been curious about him.
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Simon E. » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:05 pm

Kalimpong..1970. I was with a group including Ole Nydahl..who did not call himself 'Lama' then.
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Sherab Dorje » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:07 pm

Does the Buddha have any advice on curing flatulence? As a vegetarian that eats lots of beans and pulses (and leafy greens) hemorrhoids are not an issue but... Well, I won't go into any more detail. :emb: :tongue:
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Simon E. » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:11 pm

You must summon the Windhorse Greg...
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby emaho » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:17 pm

Guys, please help me out of my confusion... "Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra"? Is this some Pythonesque kind of humour? And who is Yogi Chen?


P.S.:

OK, I've answered the last question by myself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Chen
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Sherab Dorje » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:45 pm

ReasonAndRhyme wrote:Guys, please help me out of my confusion... "Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra"? Is this some Pythonesque kind of humour? And who is Yogi Chen?
Unfortunately not! It is exactly what happens when religion goes wrong.
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:49 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:
ReasonAndRhyme wrote:Guys, please help me out of my confusion... "Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra"? Is this some Pythonesque kind of humour? And who is Yogi Chen?
Unfortunately not! It is exactly what happens when religion goes wrong.

You probably won't like this very much:
http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2010/08/strangest-sutra-of-them-all.html
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby cdpatton » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:08 pm

Hemorrhoids? Did he run it through Google Translate?

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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Indrajala » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:16 pm

Maybe somewhat related, but there is an account of the Buddha prescribing a form of panchgavya (otherwise called cowpathy in English) in the Mūlasarvāstivāda Nidāna Mātṛka as follows:

《根本說一切有部尼陀那目得迦》卷3:「佛言。有無齒牛食噉糠麥。後時便出其粒仍全。用此為麨非時應服。」(CBETA, T24, no. 1452, p. 427, b18-20)

The Buddha said, “Have a toothless cow eat husked wheat. Later it will then eject the grain still whole. Use this for roasted flour and take it when it is untimely.”
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Qianxi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:35 pm

Strangely enough I picked up a 14 page booklet edition of this sutra from a temple in Hangzhou, China. There was no one around, but a small table piled with leaflets and little booklets on various topics and a sign saying help yourself. I picked it up without knowing what it was. A note in the back says it was reprinted in the year 2000 in thanks for a friend of a monk recovering from stomach cancer.

I don't think it's just about hemorrhoids, it's about 'cankers' in general.

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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:42 pm

Does anyone have access to the Chinese text?
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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby pemachophel » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:44 pm

Yeah, it's not just about hemorrhoids. As Qianxi said, it covers cancers as well.

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Re: Buddha on Curing Hemorrhoids Sutra

Postby Qianxi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:32 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:Does anyone have access to the Chinese text?

Yes, it's here http://tripitaka.cbeta.org/T21n1325_001 or here for a version with variant readings http://21dzk.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/SAT/ddb-sa ... seid=1325_
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