The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

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The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

Postby kirtu » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:51 pm



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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

Postby malalu » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:31 am

Hi Kirtu!

This reminds me also of the Ksitigharba Sutra (Sutra of the past vows of Earth Store Bodhisattva). And yes, I like your comment in terms of the imagery. As the Sutra unfolds, it is like a "who's who" of Buddha's and Bodhisattva's that are present in the assembly!
The past is but a present memory or condition, the future but a present projection, and the present itself vanishes before it can be grasped.- Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche

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Postby catmoon » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:31 am

Well, is that the whole thing? It looks like just the first page, an introduction of sorts.
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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

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Postby Indrajala » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:53 am

There are a number of commentaries on the sutra in Classical Chinese, but none of them are translated into English.

I'm slowly going through Fazang's commentary. His commentary focuses on the Bodhisattva precepts.

Give me a few more years and I'll have a complete translation of it hopefully. :smile:

There are various theories about the origin of the sutra. It seems to have been composed in China rather than in the Indosphere or Central Asia. It is completely unknown outside of the Sinosphere and no translation of it exists in Tibetan let alone a Sanskrit original being extant.

If you've got access to a university library, you could find a lot of articles on the sutra. :reading:



Unfortunately despite its influence it tends to get neglected (along with scholarship on the Vinaya and other less fashionable subjects like Bodhisattva precepts).

The following work might be useful:

Reflecting mirrors : perspectives on Huayan Buddhism / edited by Imre Hamar

http://books.google.com/books?id=XVrYAA ... LXXCg&cd=1

Aramaki outlines his theory on the origin of the text. He suggests that it was composed by one of Kumarajiva's disciples (rather than Kumarajiva himself) and Xuangao, a Chinese disciple of the Huayan sutra translator Buddhabhadra. He also looks at a potential relationship between Vairocana statues and the text.
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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Postby Indrajala » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:58 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

Postby Indrajala » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:12 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

Postby Huifeng » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:13 am

The Tibetan is probably the Sarvastivada Agama version, one of the "Mahasutras", not the Mahayana sutra version.

The idea of "Vairocana's teachings are taught and studied by the Buddhas and Bodhisattva's of the past, present and future" is very common amongst not only much of Mahayana literature, but even later sectarian buddhism, too. This is the older definition of "dharmata", the spiritual laws of the universe.

Not only is there a lot in Japan, nowadays the Chinese are starting to re-publish their old canons, lots of them. Notice that the new version of CBETA also has not only the Xu canon, but also the Jiaxing canon, too? Wait a few years, there are more being done right now. They are all HUGE, too.


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Postby Indrajala » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:53 am

Venerable

Unfortunately a lot of the stash tucked away in private collections in Japan are unlikely to become digitalized anytime soon. They don't even necessarily let scholars have a look at them. But then it also seems much of it isn't even catalogued!

One professor back home said something about old manuscripts of the Tale of Genji being stashed away, but the owners were reluctant to let scholars have a look at them. A lot of Classical Japanese scholars would kill to get ahold of it and possibly find one of those legendary missing chapters or something. :reading:

So, it isn't even just old works of fiction that they're not letting out it is also religious works. :crying:
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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:02 pm

Here is a 8th c. Korean commentary by Master Taehyeon on the sutra: http://www.international.ucla.edu/media ... sb-osg.pdf
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: The Brahma Net Sutra - Vairocana

Postby DGA » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:54 pm

That's a good find. Thanks!


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