Pema Rigdzin wrote:malalu wrote:TMingyur wrote:
Hmh ... guru yoga ... I forgot that ...
Well in that case perhaps I do practice vajrayana ... at least a little bit ...
Though it is one of many methods, I would have to say that Guru Yoga is at the very heart of Vajrayana practice.
Definitely. I can't speak for other traditions, but I know many Nyingma lamas of the past and present have said that guru yoga is the quickest and most profound path. I wouldn't be surprised if the masters of the other Tibetan traditions say the same.
Yeshe wrote:BFS wrote:Visualization meditation has nothing to do with vision, as in eye consciousness. It is the mental consciousness that is used. Because we use mental consciousness, and not eye consciousness, depending on the practice, one is not limited to just imagined images, there is sound, there is even smell and feeling involved.
Understood. But these visualisations are heavily weighted in favour of the visual, which I find very limited.
It's all imputed anyway, but I have seen no texts or sadhanas which describe the other senses as extensively.
Jangchup Donden wrote:I thought in visualization, all sound was mantra.
kirtu wrote:Jangchup Donden wrote:I thought in visualization, all sound was mantra.
Post sadhana all sound is mantra, etc.
The instructions with Dharma sounds, during Vajrayana refuge etc. may be a Sakya thing, I'll check with my lama. It is very clearly mentioned in Sakya instructions.