TMingyur wrote:where the topic emptiness came up.
The topic of emptiness is not seperate to the topic of Tathagatagarbha.
What can be experienced is non-attachment.
How does one experience non-attachment? For example, in order to see one needs the eye sense organ, light and a visual object. When one of the three are missing one does not experience non-seeing do they? They just do not see. So, again, how does one experience non-attachment?
Now you find the word "emptiness" in the suttas and what do you infer from that? You infer that because this word can be found this proves that it is emptiness that is experienced?
Sorry to inform you but I am not a brain dead moron. Go read the Sutta and Sutra I refer too and, like I said earlier, come back and say something intelligent.
But emptiness is just a temporary modus operandi of consciousness leading to the experience of non-attachment.
Non-attachment relies on the realisation/experience of emptiness. Emptiness is the "basis" for non-attachment. Without the experience of emptiness, the realisation of dependent origination, from where will non-attachment arise? As long as one dwells in the dualistic notion of an inherently existing subject and object non-attachment cannot arise. So through experiencing emptiness and overcoming dualism one can then dwell in non-attachment.
The experience is a lack of something that continuously has been there before. What we all know. What is it? Attachment. We all know and directly experience attachment. Therefore the experience of its absence is so striking, so completely different ... so liberating. This is not "emptiness", it is just an absence what's makes the difference and it is an absence of attachment.
If you say "No it's emptiness of attachment. It is being empty of attachment" then we may agree. Is that what you understand as "emptiness"?
You are obviously unaware of the fact that there are a number of different categories of emptiness that one can experience and that they range from absence to presence. Again GO READ THE SUTTA AND SUTRA I REFERRED TO, and when informed, COME BACK AND SAY SOMETHING INTELLIGENT!
Stop throwing around speculative views.
And yes I do prefer experience to mere thought.
Hey, that could be a new Buddhist form of cussin' "Why don't you just go and get experienced!" So go and get experienced and stop speculating!
With the eye of wisdom we discover a lot of anger in us, any amount of jealousy, resentment, ignorance, desire - mountains of emotion whose existence we would never have suspected in ourselves... We recognize that most of the faults we perceive in others are only the mirror of our own negativity, the reflection of our own disturbed feelings... At the same time, we relieve the world around us of the burden of our own negative judgements."
Gendun Rinpoche Heart Advice from a Mahamudra Master