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Tibetan vs. modern topics

Postby Mariusz » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:29 am

Let's check for example this topic: We are facing now the evolution for new spacies, the artificial. Everyone after one's own death will be a bardo being according to tibetans. These mental beings are want to rebirth from bardo state in whatever the best way as soon as possible. The possibility is made by fully feature body functioning in this world which enable the perception, feeling, mental activity and consciousness. Maybe in the future bardo beings will prefer to choose artificial bodies than human? When it occurs we will have not only human intelligence full of life/feelings but also artificial. In tibetan buddhism there is not the concept of the soul which somehow possess only human. Who knows we will be in next rebirth ???

The winner is Watson, not homo sapiens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOpW5VN2j2Q :smile:
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Re: Tibetan vs. modern topics

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:24 pm

Mariusz wrote:These mental beings are want to rebirth from bardo state in whatever the best way as soon as possible.
Not always the best way, as beings in the Bardo are normally driven by their strongest habits from their previous life/lives. Theravadrans believe that the last impression a consciousness has just before dying is the leading/deciding factor for the next rebirth.

Maybe in the future bardo beings will prefer to choose artificial bodies than human?
Possibly, but we mustn't forget that there are five skhanda in the human realm. Body is one of the skhanda. If human consciousness was to enter a machine/mechanical body then, by my standards, that would not qualify them as human. Maybe we will need an extra realm of samsaric existence? Cyborg realm?

When it occurs we will have not only human intelligence full of life/feelings but also artificial.
I don't consider the ability of a machine to string sequences of words together and compare them to a data base "full of life" and definitely not "full of feelings"!
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Re: Tibetan vs. modern topics

Postby Mariusz » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:10 am

:smile: right, the winner is a talking machine called Watson made by homo sapiens, so yet. Tibetan believe bardo beings can observe the future parents making sex in our world and can choose if "enter" them to be reborn, so perhaps they will choose to enter their enought advanced machine near someday?
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Re: Tibetan vs. modern topics

Postby Mariusz » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:11 am

Mariusz wrote::smile: right, the winner is a talking machine called Watson made by homo sapiens, so yet. Tibetan believe bardo beings can observe the future parents making sex in our world and can choose if "enter" them to be reborn, so perhaps they will choose to enter their enought advanced machine near by someday?
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Re: Tibetan vs. modern topics

Postby Sherab Dorje » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:04 am

Hmmmm... machines making love? Well...

It seems to me that you are making a slight mistake. Consiousness is not necessarily a human trait. All sentient beings are conscious. If, after my death, "my" consciousness takes rebirh with the form/body of an animal then it will not be a human consciousness anymore. Do not confuse Buddhist notions of rebirth with "Hindu" notions of rebirth. "Hindu" ideas of rebirth rely not on consciousness, but on Atman. Atman and consciousness are two completely different things.
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