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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby heart » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:09 pm

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby Ogyen » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:31 pm

Luke, I am thrilled for you. One day a teacher will give me the lung and practice. *sigh* It's a matter of merit and readiness. When the time is ripe, the right teachers appear.

PS. Remember this one thing, and I think you will be fine. Superstition is the enemy because it is the castle ignorance builds. There is nothing wrong with revealing your teacher I don't think unless: specifically instructed by your teacher NOT to (never heard of this one), OR if you are someone who could reflect poorly on your teacher (who honestly thinks THEY are the ones who reflect badly, lol).

The teacher's understanding should be well beyond superstition and as dear Magnus says, it's seeing ordinary for what it is.

The only reason we hesitate to reveal anything is because we think, what if this truth hurts me and comes back to bite me later. When you are transparent, accountability isn't a frightening thing, because you see, it's what gives you connection to other people too... you are most centered when you are not the center, if that makes sense.

To share with you, I have struggled finding a teacher now for near 2 years. I have WONDERFUL practioners around me. A Rinpoche contacted me personally to tell me I'm valued and needed. Imagine my shock as I was ready to give up in this search for a teacher. But the Rinpoche would not have contacted me had I not been open about who I am and what I seek. I did not tell him what I seek, I simply was transparent, and that warmth radiated and he gave warmth back. That is the lesson I took from it, nothing more.

Warmth and kindness are the heart of being human.

I know I'm making a mess at explaining this, but basically I'm saying, the moment you feel a slight fear in the gut, just remember, superstition is the enemy. The truth is desperately needed. Never fear, you did nothing wrong. And if you did, congratulations, you just learned something very valuable. You are the only one who can know how your decision was made, with fear or tranquility.

I'm very excited for you, and I feel a little bit on this journey with you just reading about it.

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby Silent Bob » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:18 pm

Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche's organization has a 160+ page ngondro manual that was transcribed from his teaching several years ago and is available as a download. Click "publication request" and explain in the comments box that you have your lama's permission to do the ngondro.

http://www.siddharthasintent.org/teachi ... anual.html

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby Pero » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:31 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

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Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby heart » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:01 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Discussing About One's Guru Openly

Postby plwk » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:52 am

so moral of the story iz.....

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby Pero » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:19 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Discussing About One's Guru Openly

Postby muni » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:15 am

Remain the less among all to break imagined wall, see all as perfect mothers in open heart, Guru Yoga is main practice. Some words of a simple monk based on teaching from Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche La.

Mind percieves a Teacher as ordinary, other as a kind one, other as whatever based on own habits, and then there are those who immediately prostrate in full lenght.

Rejoice.

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Re: Beginning Longchen Nyingthig Ngondro!

Postby Pero » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:48 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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