Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

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Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Paul » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:44 pm

Does anyone know which ngondro Tsoknyi Rinpoche teaches?
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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby heart » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:50 pm

Hayagriva wrote:Does anyone know which ngondro Tsoknyi Rinpoche teaches?


Could be the short Chokling Tersar Ngondro. If it is important I can find out.

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Paul » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:56 pm

heart wrote:
Hayagriva wrote:Does anyone know which ngondro Tsoknyi Rinpoche teaches?


Could be the short Chokling Tersar Ngondro. If it is important I can find out.

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I thought it might be one from the Chokling Tersar.

I'm a student of his and would like to do it, so if you could find out I would be very grateful.
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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby heart » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:38 pm

Hayagriva wrote:
heart wrote:
Hayagriva wrote:Does anyone know which ngondro Tsoknyi Rinpoche teaches?


Could be the short Chokling Tersar Ngondro. If it is important I can find out.

/magnus


I thought it might be one from the Chokling Tersar.

I'm a student of his and would like to do it, so if you could find out I would be very grateful.


Tsoknyi Rinpoche is really great. I email a friend, we will see. Anyway, you need "lung" and some instructions to start. At least that is the normal procedural.

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Paul » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:52 pm

heart wrote:Tsoknyi Rinpoche is really great. I email a friend, we will see. Anyway, you need "lung" and some instructions to start. At least that is the normal procedural.

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I have a Vajrasattva empowerment from Mingyur Rinpoche which was given in a ngondro related set of teachings, so I presume that's not something that will need to be repeated.

I'll need lung and instructions, but I'll ask him for them/where to get them before we meet next.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby heart » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:41 pm

Hayagriva wrote:
heart wrote:Tsoknyi Rinpoche is really great. I email a friend, we will see. Anyway, you need "lung" and some instructions to start. At least that is the normal procedural.

/magnus


I have a Vajrasattva empowerment from Mingyur Rinpoche which was given in a ngondro related set of teachings, so I presume that's not something that will need to be repeated.

I'll need lung and instructions, but I'll ask him for them/where to get them before we meet next.

Thanks for your help.


You did the "path of liberation part 1"? If it was in Copenhagen I was there. He gave the Sangtig Dorsem empowerment, a vajrasttva practice from the Chokling tersar.

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Josef » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:26 pm

heart wrote:
Hayagriva wrote:
heart wrote:Tsoknyi Rinpoche is really great. I email a friend, we will see. Anyway, you need "lung" and some instructions to start. At least that is the normal procedural.

/magnus


I have a Vajrasattva empowerment from Mingyur Rinpoche which was given in a ngondro related set of teachings, so I presume that's not something that will need to be repeated.

I'll need lung and instructions, but I'll ask him for them/where to get them before we meet next.

Thanks for your help.


You did the "path of liberation part 1"? If it was in Copenhagen I was there. He gave the Sangtig Dorsem empowerment, a vajrasttva practice from the Chokling tersar.

/magnus


The Sangtig Dorsem is an awesome practice.
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Postby heart » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:59 pm

Nangwa wrote:The Sangtig Dorsem is an awesome practice.


I agree, beautiful.

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby heart » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:47 pm

Seems like the Tukdrup Barche Kunsel Ngondro was the one he used to give. It is the one I mentioned before.

You can buy it here including some commentaries http://shop.gomde.us/Practice_Texts/Ngondro

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Jnana » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:33 pm

Hayagriva wrote:Does anyone know which ngondro Tsoknyi Rinpoche teaches?

Yeah, I think it's the Barchey Kunsel Preliminaries. There are different length preliminaries associated with this cycle (long, middling, and short). In addition, Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche arranged an even more condensed version of the short prelims. There is a commentary on it by Tsoknyi Rinpoche translated by Tony Duff: Commentary on the Barchay Kunsel Condensed Preliminaries of the Chogling Tersar.

There is also Tony Duff's translation of the The Drukpa Kagyu Mahamudra Preliminary Practices by Khamtrul III, Kunga Tenzin, translated at the request of Tsoknyi Rinpoche.

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Re: Tsoknyi Rinpoche & ngondro

Postby Paul » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:42 pm

Thanks both, that's really good information. I'll be seeing him this spring so I'll see if there's a possibility of getting a lung.

The main group of practitioners I know are students of Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche, which will be very useful.
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