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hi, i read the smoking tobacco thread and i am interested in knowing if any of you know or have english translated termas that mention smoking cigarettes or Lamas and Rinpoches talking about smoking cigarettes or tobacco.

please post links to termas in this thread that talk about smoking tobacco.

There is a famous text on this subject by Shardza Rinpoche but I don't have any link to that. There was a discussion about this text on the defunct forum Yungdrung rigngaling.

You have an even more famous work by Dudjom Rinpoche based on earlier Termas here :
http://fr.scribd.com/doc/118527483/Dudj ... of-Tobacco

crazy text. thanks for linking it to me. i have to quit.

KonchokZoepa wrote:i have to quit.

Just a quick comment - there is a very big difference between "I have to quit" or "I ought to quit" and "I want to quit." "I am going to quit" is your strongest motivational aid.

If deep down you do not want to quit and are not totally committed to quitting, you will very likely not quit.

Ask me how I know this.

no need to ask you, i undestand, i deep down want to quit really, but currently i am gathering strenght to the commitment to quit.

I quit when I realized it was affecting my breathing....and I figured this out by doing prostrations. It became obvious.

I wish you the best of luck. You CAN do it, believe me.

thanks for the support

Norbu Rinpoche described an efficacious treatment from Tibetan Medicine way back in 1990 during a retreat. I completely forgot what it was but I'm sure someone from the DC can inform you of this. It was something implying massages with some special ointment, etc. I'm completely unsure of the details but I met somebody from Merigar many years ago who had done it successfully.

mutsuk wrote:Norbu Rinpoche described an efficacious treatment from Tibetan Medicine way back in 1990 during a retreat. I completely forgot what it was but I'm sure someone from the DC can inform you of this. It was something implying massages with some special ointment, etc. I'm completely unsure of the details but I met somebody from Merigar many years ago who had done it successfully.

Dug Sel Man Sang maybe?

*Edit*

The Tibetan Medicine with oil that Mutsuk mentioned might be available upon request (if one has received Chulen instructions or similar and/or has a prescription from a Tibetan Doctor).

Could try to contact Shang Shung Institute or Dr. Phuntsog Wangmo.

Although anyone can order Sorig or Men-Tsee-Khang Medicines:

Health & Beauty

From the North American Shang Shung webstore^.

You get pills and massage oil, one week is about 25 bucks (18 euros) excluding postage.

justsit wrote:

KonchokZoepa wrote:i have to quit.

Just a quick comment - there is a very big difference between "I have to quit" or "I ought to quit" and "I want to quit." "I am going to quit" is your strongest motivational aid.

If deep down you do not want to quit and are not totally committed to quitting, you will very likely not quit.

Ask me how I know this.

"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k

Konchog1 wrote:"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k

The blurb says, "begin an internal dialogue with his future self to convince his present self that it can, in fact, live without its addiction."

I was taught that its preferable to view it in terms of what you gain rather than what you lose, quit, or give up.

futerko wrote:

Konchog1 wrote:"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k

The blurb says, "begin an internal dialogue with his future self to convince his present self that it can, in fact, live without its addiction."

I was taught that its preferable to view it in terms of what you gain rather than what you lose, quit, or give up.

Living without the addiction includes gaining good things

I do know that in Bhutan, a country that practises Tibetan Buddhism all tobacco use has been out-lawned. Whether this was done for religious, political,health reasons or a combination of these I don't know.

shaunc wrote:I do know that in Bhutan, a country that practises Tibetan Buddhism all tobacco use has been out-lawned. Whether this was done for religious, political,health reasons or a combination of these I don't know.

I don't remember where but I read it was for financial reasons: too many people having cancers because of tobacco usage would cost too much to the country. This has to be checked though.