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Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby mirco » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:14 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Postby Viscid » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:19 pm

Any previous recipients of the 'Sasana Tilaka' title are seemingly ungooglable, which makes its prestige dubious.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby daverupa » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:33 pm

I found some photos , which should be viewable even without a Facebook account. The album has the following text: "Venerable Dharmeswar has come from Bengladesh and has stopped in Missouri to present Bhante Vimalaramsi with the title "Sasana Tilaka"." The document can be read there, though with some difficulty given the resolution.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby mirco » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:42 pm

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"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Postby mirco » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:46 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Postby Viscid » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:48 pm

Yes, that's a very pretty piece of paper.. but what does being a 'Sasana Tilaka' mean, exactly? Who else is or was a 'Sasana Tilka?' Why was it given to Vimalaramsi particularly, on the other side of the planet, and not some other teacher? What sort of relationship does he have with the Supreme Sangha Council of Bangladesh? What authority does the 'Supreme Sangha Council of Bangladesh' have?

Knowing these sort of things defines the relevance of receiving such a title.
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Postby mirco » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:08 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby cooran » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:21 pm

Hello all,

Some interesting facts about Bangladesh:

Bangladesh Country Profile:
Religion based Population : Muslim (89.7%), Hindu (9.2%), Buddhist (0.7%), Christian (0.3%), Animist and believers in tribal faiths (0.1%

More at:
http://www.banbeis.gov.bd/bd_pro.htm

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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:50 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby Ytrog » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Whoever this title comes from or how much prestige it carries doesn't really matter in my opinion. It is a token of respect and a very nice thing to give.
Titles are also a good thing to let go of as well :)

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby Virgo » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:01 pm

Not to sound overly critical but for a document meant to represent the "Supreme Sangha Council of Bangladesh" (sounds important) and which in a way represents the Three Jewels in general, and which happens to be written in English, and is also meant to be presented to a native English-speaker, shouldn't the English on the document be... better?

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Postby bodom » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:02 pm

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Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:31 pm

Greetings,

Well they didn't impeach him... I suppose that's good.

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"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Postby mirco » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:54 am

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi awarded Sasana Tilaka

Postby Brizzy » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:56 am

Where is all the above anger coming from?
A Buddhist monk receives an obscure award and people become upset.
I could understand people becoming a little bit ratty regarding dubious winners of grander prizes like the Nobel peace prize (Obama?, Arafat?), but to get such strong reactions about this is strange. If people have problems with Bhante V, then I am sure that there are other threads in which one can take issue with him. Methinks some people have an agenda. :tongue:
As far as the award goes, good for Bhante V. One thing that is indisputable is that over the last decade Bhante V has generated debate and been the catalyst for some people to re-evaluate, re-read and reconsider the suttas/vinaya as the only Buddhavacana. Hopefully those people that reject anything he says outright have at least inquired into the suttas.

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