Interestingly there are some memes that seem to keep appearing even though there are pretty good reasons not to believe them. They also tend to get believed uncritically by some folks who would otherwise expect evidence for claims. By way of example,
dzoki wrote:it would be best to let his "lineage" of made up people (Aro Lingma and Khalden (sic!) Lingpa) die like a small fire in the wet grass.
By the way some years ago I pointed out in the discussion (probably here on DW) that Rangrig Dorje could not have been father of Aro lingma (the dates did not fit) and lo now they changed it to him being guru of her mother.
Khalden Lingpa, for example, is the gtérma name of the previous incarnation of Chhi'méd Rig'dzin Rinpoche, as can be attested to here on this non-Aro website: http://www.khordong-byangter.org/lineage.html
Ngak'chang Rinpoche was recognised by CRR to be the incarnation of the Padma Legden, Khalden Lingpa's gtér scribe. CRR mentions this in this Long-Life Wish Path: http://approachingaro.org/images/CR_lon ... r%20nr.jpg
The idea that the lineage history of the aro tradition has been changed many times over the years (especially in relation to observations of critics online) is very popular. The thing is, the Way Back Machine has independent archives of the Aro website going back to 1998, showing that it's not changed at all. Aside from that the written Aro publication 'Hidden Word' goes back to the eighties and also has the same info as today's account of the lineage history. They all have ISBN numbers and are archived somewhere or other if people really would like to verify claims of alterations over the years. The one change in there is the misspelling of 'Khalden' Lingpa as 'Khalding'.
yegyal wrote:Well, what isn't surprising is that he would need a new intro to one of his books, since he got into trouble for previous forwards that he apparently wrote himself, but claimed were written by Chime Rigdzin and Ngakpa Yeshe Dorje, which were later removed from subsequent editions. It seems he is quite adept at attaching himself to lamas in this way and using their esteemed reputations to bolster his own.
mutsuk wrote:Please Simon E. as requested by another poster, stop twisting other people's words and acknowledge the fact that Chogyam manipulated some lamas and had to remove their "preface". This is telling.
This is also a very popular meme, but from what I can tell isn't the case. This forward (for Rainbow of Liberated Energy), for example, is not written by Ngak'chang Rinpoche: http://approachingaro.org/images/826x56 ... uction.jpg
" The next edition of that book did indeed have a different foreward, this time by CRR, which to my knowledge has never been removed, its inclusion however was because of a rather sad story which is told here: http://approachingaro.org/ngakpa-chogyam-lamas-overview
" in the section on Lama Yeshe Dorje Rinpoche and CRR.
'Wearing the Body of Visions' also has a foreward from Ngak'chang Rinpoche's friend Lama Gyaltsen which never gets mentioned perhaps because it lacks scandal: http://approachingaro.org/gyaltsen-rinp ... troduction
Anyhow, there's that information for those who are interested.