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Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby Ngawang Drolma » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:18 pm

On the subject of conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta, do you see a difference among traditions?

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Re: Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby catmoon » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:55 pm

The bodhicittas should be the same, the difference would be in what you think you are applying the bodhicitta to. Hardly worth bothering about, compared to the importance of practicing, either way.
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Re: Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby Huifeng » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:26 am

LauraJ wrote:On the subject of conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta, do you see a difference among traditions?

Best,
Laura :)


It pay to first establish clearly what traditions say these things are, before asking about a difference.
For instance, does every school actually make a distinction that there are two types of bodhicitta in the first place?

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Re: Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby Ngawang Drolma » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:35 am

Huifeng wrote:
LauraJ wrote:On the subject of conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta, do you see a difference among traditions?

Best,
Laura :)


It pay to first establish clearly what traditions say these things are, before asking about a difference.
For instance, does every school actually make a distinction that there are two types of bodhicitta in the first place?


Very good question, I'll think on it.

Thanks you Venerable :)

Best,
Laura

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Re: Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby ground » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:30 am

Ngawang Drolma wrote:
Huifeng wrote:
LauraJ wrote:On the subject of conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta, do you see a difference among traditions?

Best,
Laura :)


It pay to first establish clearly what traditions say these things are, before asking about a difference.
For instance, does every school actually make a distinction that there are two types of bodhicitta in the first place?


Very good question, ...

Indeed. Convention is the basis of all traditions and every tradition has its own convention ;)

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Re: Conventional bodhicitta and ultimate bodhicitta

Postby ground » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:35 am

TMingyur wrote:Convention is the basis of all traditions and every tradition has its own convention


Example (hypothesis):
The "ultimate bodhicitta" of madhyamaka is the only "bodhicitta" that is "known" in the context of Dzogchen.

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