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the womb of compassion

Postby tobes » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:49 am

This is an easy one: which text did Nagarjuna assert that emptiness is the womb/essence (garbha) of compassion?

I can't for the life of me remember.....

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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby pueraeternus » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:01 pm

The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.
When I set out to lead humanity along my Golden Path I promised a lesson their bones would remember. I know a profound pattern humans deny with words even while their actions affirm it. They say they seek security and quiet, conditions they call peace. Even as they speak, they create seeds of turmoil and violence.

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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby Will » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:39 pm

pueraeternus wrote:The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.


Hopkins, in verse 396, renders this "essence of compassion and emptiness"
Revealing one essence: this means the inherently pure, complete, luminous essence, which is pure of its own nature. -- Fa-tsang
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby pueraeternus » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:17 pm

Will wrote:
pueraeternus wrote:The sunyatakarungarbha appears in his Ratnavali.


Hopkins, in verse 396, renders this "essence of compassion and emptiness"


I remember attending a talk by Robert Thurman, where he described this concept as something like "true emptiness is indeed true compassion". In many other translations, it is as Hopkins rendered - essence of compassion + emptiness, which gives a notion of compassion and emptiness as two separate things co-joined. I somehow prefer Thurman's explanation.
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby Jesse » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:39 pm

Ajahn Brahmavamso has a dhamma talk where he says emptiness is the ultimate form of love, emptiness accepts everything, like the sky accepts the sun and moon, like space accepts everything within it.

love/compassion, same thing.
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Re: the womb of compassion

Postby tobes » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:18 am

Thankyou my friends. :twothumbsup:
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