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Nirvana

Postby gena1480 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:45 am

i would like to express
how i understand nirvana or describtion of nirvana
as i read in Abidhamma about karma
their is four types of karma
karma by place/ or base
karma by time
karma by consciousnesses
karma by nutriment

if there is a place
there is a time
if there is time
there is the consciousness
if there is consciousness
there is nutriment
so nirvana is not karma
nirvana is not a place
nirvana is not time
nirvana is not consciousness
nirvana is not nutriment
so there is two way to describe nirvana
what is nirvana
and what is not nirvana
to think what is nirvana is the taint of being/sense desire
to think what is nirvana is the taint of not being/ill will
as this both conflict they create doubt
doubt create ignorance
as i find in the sutras nirvana is elimination of ignorance
i would like to hear what kind of describtion
what kind of view you guys have regarding the Mahayana view of nirvana
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Re: Nirvana

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:30 am

When we confront the world with an army of likes and dislikes we suffer a never ending battle.
and when we are non-confrontational we experience peace, even though the world goes on just as it always has.

It is not hard to find a moment of peace here and there, now and then, but if the causes for conflict remain,
then the battle will surely start up again.

The causes for conflict rest in the mind alone and when they are completely uprooted then the battle ceases once and for all. that is my understanding of Nirvana.
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Re: Nirvana

Postby DarwidHalim » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:20 pm

gena1480 wrote:i would like to express
how i understand nirvana or describtion of nirvana
as i read in Abidhamma about karma
their is four types of karma
karma by place/ or base
karma by time
karma by consciousnesses
karma by nutriment

if there is a place
there is a time
if there is time
there is the consciousness
if there is consciousness
there is nutriment
so nirvana is not karma
nirvana is not a place
nirvana is not time
nirvana is not consciousness
nirvana is not nutriment
so there is two way to describe nirvana
what is nirvana
and what is not nirvana
to think what is nirvana is the taint of being/sense desire
to think what is nirvana is the taint of not being/ill will
as this both conflict they create doubt
doubt create ignorance
as i find in the sutras nirvana is elimination of ignorance
i would like to hear what kind of describtion
what kind of view you guys have regarding the Mahayana view of nirvana


Nirvana and samsara are just a label. They are simply a term to differentiate the aspect of mind in realizing enlightenment.

Mind which is clouded by illusions and unable to penetrate these illusions are said samsara mind.

Mind which is not fooled by the existence of illusions and able to penetrate this illusions to see sunyata, to see phenomena as what it is, is called nirvana mind.

So, they are just a label to differentiate 2 different quality of "state".

This earth is samsara for unenlightened being like us, but this earth is nirvana for those whose mind is no longer fooled by illusions and whose mind can see emptiness.

Hell is samsara for unenlightened being like us, but the hell is nirvana for those whose mind is no longer fooled by illusions and whose mind can see emptiness.
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Re: Nirvana

Postby PadmaVonSamba » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:08 pm

Been there.
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