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Re: the ever-changing Western view of Madhyamaka
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:35 pm
by Virgo
Namdrol wrote:
Basically the rang stong/gzhan stong controversy is bullshit, and so is the prasangika/svatantrika controversy.
If you want to understand Madhyamaka, don't read Tibetan accounts of Madhyamaka dating after the 13th century. And here, it is better still just to rely on Indian masters. The sole exception to this is Khenpa Shenga's treatises, which are just Indian commentaries turned into footnoted annotations of root texts.
N
Keeping the above in mind, what would you recommend in English?
Kevin
Re: the ever-changing Western view of Madhyamaka
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:35 am
by Malcolm
Virgo wrote:Namdrol wrote:
Basically the rang stong/gzhan stong controversy is bullshit, and so is the prasangika/svatantrika controversy.
If you want to understand Madhyamaka, don't read Tibetan accounts of Madhyamaka dating after the 13th century. And here, it is better still just to rely on Indian masters. The sole exception to this is Khenpa Shenga's treatises, which are just Indian commentaries turned into footnoted annotations of root texts.
N
Keeping the above in mind, what would you recommend in English?
Kevin
The Yogic Deeds of Bodhisattvas
INTRODUCTION TO THE MIDDLE WAY: Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara with Commentary by Jamgon Mipham
THE ORNAMENT OF REASON: The Great Commentary to Nagarjuna's Root of the Middle Way
NAGARJUNA'S REASON SIXTY (Yuktisastika) with CANDRAKIRTI'S COMMENTARY (Yuktisastikavrtti)
This is my shortlist.
Mab
Re: the ever-changing Western view of Madhyamaka
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:40 am
by Virgo
Namdrol wrote:
The Yogic Deeds of Bodhisattvas
INTRODUCTION TO THE MIDDLE WAY: Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara with Commentary by Jamgon Mipham
THE ORNAMENT OF REASON: The Great Commentary to Nagarjuna's Root of the Middle Way
NAGARJUNA'S REASON SIXTY (Yuktisastika) with CANDRAKIRTI'S COMMENTARY (Yuktisastikavrtti)
This is my shortlist.
Mab
Thanks!
I'm obtaining Introduction to the Middle Way: Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara with Commentary by Ju Mipham to start.
Kevin