Dharma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism
It is currently Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:28 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 11:54 pm
Posts: 302
I've found fascinating -- the meaning of the 4 Noble Truths in the Mahayana is so different:

Quote:
Chapter 25 Angulimala Sutra

"What are the four ? The words 'the four noble truths' are renowned in the Śrāvaka-yāna, but such features are absent from the Mahāyāna.

The following inherent natures and functions are the four truths:
1)to say that the Tathāgata is permanent is an absolute truth for Mahāyāna,
but suffering (dukha) is not a truth;

2)to say that the Tathāgata is eternal is an absolute truth,
but not origination (samudaya);

3)to say that the Tathāgata is supremely unchanging is an absolute truth,
but cessation (nirodha) is not a truth;

4)and to say that the Tathāgata is peace is an absolute truth,
but not the path (mārga).

These are the four noble truths for Mahāyāna.


This is literally turning the 4 Noble Truths the turning of the sutras as Huineng said!!!!

Would anyone like to venture into the meaning of this profound statement through your practice. This is the meaning which separates the philosophers who simply read the 4 Noble Truths and gain a cursery intellectual understanding from the practitioners!

:meditate:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 11:54 pm
Posts: 302
As I know people are just dying to give their interpretations to these Mahayana 4 Noble Truths because they practice meditation everyday regularly and have come to know, love and worship their Buddha natures with absolute anatma abandon and devotion :tongue:

I shall now go on to further post Mahayana sutras with explanations of the Mahayana 4 Noble Truths-- the Lioness's Roar! The Queen Srimala's Sutra on 3rd Noble Truth:

Quote:
"Lord, the cessation of suffering is not the destruction of Dharma. Why so? Because the Dharmakaya of the Tathagata is named 'cessation of suffering,' and it is beginningless, uncreate, unborn, undying, free from death; permanent, steadfast, calm, eternal;



Quote:
10. The One Truth

"Lord, among those four Noble Truths, three Truths are impermanent and one Truth is permanent.

Why so? Because the three Truths belong to the characteristic of the constructed, and anything belonging to the characteristic of the constructed is impermanent. Anything impermanent has an illusory nature. Everything with illusory nature is untrue, impermanent, and not a refuge.

Therefore, the Noble Truths of Suffering, Source of Suffering, and Path leading to the Cessation of Suffering are actually untrue, impermanent, and not a refuge.

Lord, among those [four], the one Truth -- Cessation of Suffering -- excludes the realm with the characteristic of the constructed. Anything excluding the realm with the characteristic of the constructed is permanent. Whatever is permanent lacks an illusory nature. Anything that lacks an illusory nature is true, permanent, and a refuge.

Therefore, the Truth -- Cessation of Suffering -- is in reality true, permanent, and a refuge.



Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group