hop.pala wrote:when you know that you have always had awakening you will realise that its not necessary to see or experience anything special. you are a buddha just as you are.
Ok all right.Later write something about the kleshas.you are buddha
it is easy to fall back to one's habitual clinging to phenomena, thus many Chan teachers emphasized continuous training, or the so called "sudden enlightenment, gradual practice" format.
Astus wrote:. However, Chan teachers, starting with Heze Shenhui, were quite clear about it that non-thought is all there is to realise.
theanarchist wrote:Nope, non-thought can also be a temporary result of shamata practice which does not equal with liberation/awakening.
And an awakened person can and will have thoughts. But unlike us the awakened/liberated person will have direct realisation that neither the thoughts nor any other phenomenon have a solid reality. That insight is in sutrayana archieved by vipassana practice.
As long as you cling to non thought you are definitely not liberated.
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