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"Four articles of conversion"

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:34 pm

In the Srimala Devi Sutra, in the section on the Ten Great Vows (Chapter 1, Section 2) the seventh great vow is:

"(7) Lord, from now on, and until I attain enlightenment, I hold to this seventh vow, that with the four article of conversion I shall benefit the sentient beings and not convert them for my own sake; indeed, I shall seek to convert the sentient beings with my mind unoccupied with material things, ever unsatisfied, and not retreating."

Does anybody know what these four articles of conversion are? I am translating the Sutra into Greek and need to add a footnote.

Thanks!
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: "Four articles of conversion"

Postby Astus » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:00 pm

"I will practice the four all-embracing acts (giving, kind speech, benefiting others, and cooperation toward leading all beings to virtuous deeds) for all living beings, and not for myself. I accept all living beings without lust, without satiation, and without prejudice."
(Sutra of Queen Śrīmālā of the Lion’s Roar, ch 2; tr. Diana Y. Paul)
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T51n2076, p461b24-26)
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Re: "Four articles of conversion"

Postby jmlee369 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:45 am

I believe it is commonly called "the four ways of gathering/attracting disciples" in the Tibetan tradition.
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Re: "Four articles of conversion"

Postby disjointed » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:38 am

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Re: "Four articles of conversion"

Postby sukhamanveti » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:13 am

jmlee369 wrote:I believe it is commonly called "the four ways of gathering/attracting disciples" in the Tibetan tradition.


Yes. That is it. There are Pali, Sanskrit, Chinese, and Tibetan versions of the list and slightly differing interpretations of it in the major Buddhist traditions (even within Tibetan Buddhism).
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Re: "Four articles of conversion"

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:19 am

Fantastic! Thank you all VERY much! :smile:

I think I will use the term "all embracing acts" and will work from the translation you mentioned Astus. I am not too happy with the quality of the translation (Alex Wayman) that I found.
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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