Question on Mantras

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Question on Mantras

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:48 am

I have a question about why some mantras have brackets around some sylables.
As here in the Medicine Buddha Mantra.

TAYATA OM BEKANDZAY BEKANDZAY MAHA BEKANDZAY [BEKANDZAY] RANDZA SAMUGATAY SOHA


Thanks for any input to help me understand

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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Roland » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:16 am

In the book "Medicine Buddha Teachings" (Nyingma) the mantra is written like this:

TAYATA OM BEKENDZE BEKENDZE MAHA BEKENDZE RADZA SAMUDGATE SO HA

In Drikung Kagyu, it is written like this:

TAYATA OM BEKANDZE BEKANDZE MAHA BEKANDZE BEKANDZE RADZA SUMON GHATE SOHA

I'm guessing it depends on the system or lineage as to whether or not the second "BEKANDZE" is included and maybe that is the reason for the brackets.
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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:24 am

Thank you.
I guess I should have mentioned this is from the Gelugpa tradition.

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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Roland » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:30 am

Interesting... I wondered because I had not seen it spelled in the way you presented it. I've also never seen any mantras before this one with brackets encompassing one word. Is this exclusively in Gelugpa? :shrug:
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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby maybay » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:00 am

The mantra might be spelled either way in different versions of the same sutra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets_.5B_.5D
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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby kirtu » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:01 am

Roland wrote:Interesting... I wondered because I had not seen it spelled in the way you presented it. I've also never seen any mantras before this one with brackets encompassing one word. Is this exclusively in Gelugpa? :shrug:


No. In Sakya both mantras are used (with and without the extra BEYKANZE). The more "common" Medicine Buddha mantra is without the additional BEYKANZE.

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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:58 am

Thank you for all the responses.
So I guess if a sylable is in brackets then it's an "option" to say it.
That was copied from the Lama Yeshe Wisdom archives for any inquireing minds :smile:

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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Ayu » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:09 pm

My Gelug-teacher ist from Tibet, Dargye Monastery.
He tought us the version with the double bekandze. No brackets or option. :smile:

He gave us a longer version with the option to shorten it from "Tayata" (German spelled: TEYATA).

In German pronounciation it goes like this:

OM NAMOH BHAGAVATE
BEKANDZE GURUR BENDURJA RADSAYA TATAGHATAYA
ARHATE SAMJAK SAMBHUDDHAYA
> TEYATAH
OM BEKANDZE BEKANDZE MAHA BEKANDZE BEKANDZE RADSA SAMOGHATE SOHA

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Re: Question on Mantras

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:09 pm

Thank you Ayu

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Everyday problems teach us to have a realistic attitude.
They teach us that life is what life is; flawed.
Yet with tremendous potential for joy and fulfillment.
~Lama Surya Das~

If your path teaches you to act and exert yourself correctly and leads to spiritual realizations such as love, compassion and wisdom then obviously it's worthwhile.
~Lama Thubten Yeshe~

One whose mind is freed does not argue with anyone, he does not dispute with anyone. He makes use of the conventional terms of the world without clinging to them
~The Buddha~


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