The "most powerful" mantra.

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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby smcj » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:02 pm

I can't remember where I read it, but I think I've seen it said that 10th level bodhisattvas can create new mantras.

I hesitate to say that as I would hesitate to splash gasoline around a fire, but then again I don't see this thread getting any worse.
There is a tradition of making a distinction between two different perspectives on the nature of emptiness: one is when emptiness is presented within a philosophical analysis of the ultimate reality of things, in which case it ought to be understood in terms of a non-affirming negative phenomena. On the other hand, when it is discussed from the point of view of experience, it should be understood more in terms of an affirming negation.
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby jonaz108 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:28 pm

smcj wrote:I can't remember where I read it, but I think I've seen it said that 10th level bodhisattvas can create new mantras.

I hesitate to say that as I would hesitate to splash gasoline around a fire, but then again I don't see this thread getting any worse.


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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby M.G. » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:20 pm

The most powerful mantra is the letter 'A.'
Second most powerful is probably dependent on personal proclivities and one's actual practice.
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby lobster » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:02 am

M.G. wrote:The most powerful mantra is the letter 'A.'


Yes indeed.

'A' is for Apple is something we were taught in kindergarten, now that education is being sponsored by Microsoft, Google and others this may change.

Power investment as has been amply illustrated is invested by perceived authority or its lack. If you have no tree to plant your mantra seeds in, then you end up moving from 'A' to 'b' is for beeee (apologies for too many eee's for the literal)

The most powerful mantra is as always the one that empowers your practice. :namaste:
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby Simon E. » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:20 am

M.G. wrote:The most powerful mantra is the letter 'A.'
Second most powerful is probably dependent on personal proclivities and one's actual practice.

I don't think we can say that it is the most ' powerful '...I am not sure we could agree what ' powerful ' means in this context. Mantras are most usefully given by a teacher able to discern our needs.
The white ' A ' is often given to establish a practice.
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby M.G. » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:52 pm

Simon E. wrote:
M.G. wrote:The most powerful mantra is the letter 'A.'
Second most powerful is probably dependent on personal proclivities and one's actual practice.

I don't think we can say that it is the most ' powerful '...I am not sure we could agree what ' powerful ' means in this context. Mantras are most usefully given by a teacher able to discern our needs.
The white ' A ' is often given to establish a practice.


I was having a bit of fun. (Though certainly my teacher did emphasize the importance of the letter 'A.')
Inquiring into the "most powerful" mantra is like asking about the "best practice." It's a matter of capacity, instruction, and time invested.
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby lobster » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:21 pm

M.G. wrote:I was having a bit of fun.

:twothumbsup:

good plan

In the heretical Japanese Shingon/vajrayana tradition I was taught by self proclaimed Shifu Nagaboshi Tomio, the focus on kanji was complemented by mantra. One of my lesser teachers is now buried in the grounds of a Zen temple. From A to Z z z . . .

Now that the dharma finds that mantra from abracadabra to Tetragrammaton exists in Western scripts, we have to wonder if going back to ABC is possible?

Can you hear the gnashing of the hungry ghosts, waiting for an exclamation of power? :namaste:
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Re: The "most powerful" mantra.

Postby M.G. » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:29 am

I don't believe in a "most powerful" mantra, but I suppose a case could be made for the Vajra Guru mantra:

http://www.rinpoche.com/gurumantra.html
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