List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

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JKhedrup
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List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04 am

Avatamsaka Sutra

Diamond Cutter Sutra

The Sutra of Golden Light
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Astus » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:09 am

Complete Enlightenment Sutra

Vimalakirti Sutra

Diamond Sutra

(are you making statistics?)
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:14 am

LOL If we're ever going to propose a Mahayana Sutra translation project to sponsors we need to figure out people's favourites, right? :rolling:
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Astus » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:35 am

JKhedrup wrote:LOL If we're ever going to propose a Mahayana Sutra translation project to sponsors we need to figure out people's favourites, right? :rolling:


Since people here can read English but only very few knows canonical languages there is a big chance that all the favourite sutras are already translated, perhaps even more than once. So, instead of favourites, those that are not yet translated but are still considered important by the majority of the traditions should be published in English. Of course there are some sutras that could use a new translation (e.g. Lankavatara and the bigger Prajnaparamita Sutras).
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:37 am

You make an excellent point... Don't know why I didn't think of that...

The lack of cohesion within the Mahayana Buddhist world leads to duplication of translation efforts and neglect of very important Sutras and Shastras that are still awaiting translation. If we could get our act together and the different organizations could start thinking of Buddhism as a whole instead of their institutional objectives great things could happen. But, I'm not holding my breath...


It will still be interesting though to see which Sutras peope like.
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin

Anders
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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Anders » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:08 pm

Avatamsaka Sutra
Diamond Sutra


It's a hard pick for the third between the Prajnaparamita, Shurangama and Vimalakirti sutras, but I am actually going to go with a less well known one from the Ratnakuta collection - I only know the English title as it is translated in "A treasury of Mahayana Sutras":

Demonstration of the Inconceivable State of Buddhahood Sutra

If the Ratnakuta collection could be heaped into one sutra, I'd go with that one as third choice. A lot of gems in there. And to my knowledge, this collection has yet to be translated in full.
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I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby pueraeternus » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:12 pm

Astus wrote:Of course there are some sutras that could use a new translation (e.g. Lankavatara and the bigger Prajnaparamita Sutras).


Totally with you on the Lankavatara. Can we have a new, academic translation of the Lanka? Others here have pointed out glaring issues with Red Pine's recent effort, so I hope there will be better translation in the horizon.
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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby randomseb » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:13 pm

Diamond Sutra
Sutra of Hei-neng
Surangama sutra

If there was a 4th maybe it would be the Sutra of Innumerable Meanings
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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Yudron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:19 pm

Khedrup-la... I've never taken an interest in a meritorious project like you are without eventually finding that I am the one who does it.

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:08 pm

[warning: Theravada, vegetarian bias]

1. Heart Sutra
2. Lankavatara Sutra
3. Diamond Sutra

[/end warning]

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby JKhedrup » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:50 am

Khedrup-la... I've never taken an interest in a meritorious project like you are without eventually finding that I am the one who does it.


You are very kind but I would need a lot of help! I hope as the years of translation work go by my skills at translating more difficult written material can become refined enough to really do a decent job on such projects.

I used to dream of moving to Bhutan and spending my life doing such work but I realized that maybe wasn't the most realistic thing in the world. (Doesn't every Vajrayana practitioner who has visited Bhutan dream of moving there?)

The thing is though, with Geshe Sonam around (he was a petri gegan at Sera Jey)I do have a fantastic scholar to whom I could field questions if the opportunity arises.
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Son of Buddha » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:31 am

Nirvana Sutra

Queen Srimala Sutra

Lotus Sutra

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Jnana » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:01 am

I don't really have a top three, but I'm rather fond of these:

Ratnarāśi Sūtra
Rāṣṭrapālaparipṛcchā Sūtra
Ugraparipṛcchā Sūtra

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby dyanaprajna2011 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:06 pm

This isn't an easy question to answer, but here goes:

Heart Sutra
Lotus Sutra
Lankavatara Sutra
(Hui-Neng's Platform Sutra would be a close fourth)

And I agree that we need a better English translation of the Lankavatara.
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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby kirtu » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:29 pm

JKhedrup wrote:I used to dream of moving to Bhutan and spending my life doing such work but I realized that maybe wasn't the most realistic thing in the world. (Doesn't every Vajrayana practitioner who has visited Bhutan dream of moving there?)


Is it possible?

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby cj39 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:46 pm

1. Amitabha Sutra
2. Heart Sutra
3. Tie: Contemplation Sutra and Diamond Sutra

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Re: List your favourite top 3 Mahayana Sutras

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:03 pm

Heart Sutra
Lankavatara Sutra
Diamond Sutra
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