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Why no rainbow similes in the suttas? - Dhamma Wheel

Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

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Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

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Re: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

Postby DarwidHalim » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:18 am

In the Sutta, I am not sure. But my guess it must be somewhere.

However, in the sutra, there is. There are 10 similes normally used to teach anatta. Rainbow is one of them.

So, actually long time ago they already know rainbow is not real.
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!

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Re: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

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Re: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

Postby DarwidHalim » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:28 am

I can't remember exactly where I read it. I remember it mentioned 10 examples of anatta. I try to find it, but I don't know where it is. :tantrum:

However, these are the traditional examples which are used to illustrate anatta in Sutra tradition, which are more than 10.
1. Magical Illusions
2. Dream
3. Mirages
4. Echoes
5. Reflection of moon in the water
6. Rainbow
7. City if Gandarva
8. Wheel of firebrand
9. Matted hair
10. Indra's net
11. Bubbles in the surface of water.
12. Lighting.
13. Opera.

For modern time, some teacher use television or LCD. This example, in my personal opinion is really good.

For example in heart sutra and Nagarjuna's fundamental of middle way, it is said.
There is no increment
There is no decrement
There is no movement
There is no time
There is no gain
There is no loss
Etc

With the help of LCD, it is really helpful for example to understand why in ultimate sense there is no movement.

When you see F1 race in from of LCD, you see so many cars moving around. That is movement, isn't it?
But, if there is movement, why your LCD doesn't move? What is the real movement then? Using LCD really gives tremendous insight in understanding all these negation.

Same thing we see we are growing bigger and bigger. We see the baby in the television. The baby is growing bigger and bigger in the television. But, heart sutra said there is no increment. How to understand this? If there is true increment, the growing of the baby in television show has to make your LCD getting bigger and bigger, isn't it? But your LCd size is still the same. Where is the growing (increment) then?

So, all movements, increment, decrement, whatever it is, all are illusions. Extremely big topic.

There is a book that tell this illusions. The title is Twelve Examples of Illusions.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WT26H ... 991&sr=8-2
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!

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Re: Why no rainbow similes in the suttas?

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