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Question about sotapanna insight

Postby xtracorrupt » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:36 am

When one becomes a ''sotapanna'' is it the realization that one does not actually need anything?

I was wondering this because I was wondering if one realized he had no needs and then his next desire was happiness, would he achieve only happiness?
Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.
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Re: Question about sotapanna insight

Postby lowlydog » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:53 am

Nope.
Human beings have needs. :smile:
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Re: Question about sotapanna insight

Postby xtracorrupt » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:08 am

lowlydog wrote:Nope.
Human beings have needs. :smile:


Ok, but a sotapanna doesn't need identity though, so he can't use identity as a justification for need.
Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.
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Re: Question about sotapanna insight

Postby lowlydog » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:04 pm

xtracorrupt wrote:Ok, but a sotapanna doesn't need identity though, so he can't use identity as a justification for need.


A sotapanna has merely glimpsed Nibanna, there are still many fetters remaining to give one a sense of self. But a sotapanna knows this is an illusion, so the sense of self is not as strong.
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Re: Question about sotapanna insight

Postby floating_abu » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:12 pm

xtracorrupt wrote:When one becomes a ''sotapanna'' is it the realization that one does not actually need anything?

I was wondering this because I was wondering if one realized he had no needs and then his next desire was happiness, would he achieve only happiness?


Hi xtracorrupt,

No offence, but this is like asking how does chocolate ice-cream taste.

Well wishes,

Abu
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