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British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

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British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Ben » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:26 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby bodom » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:07 am

A sad situation. May she have a favorable rebirth and may her family and friends get through this tough time.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:37 am

Unfortunately, I only ever encountered the classically self-destructive aspect of her life. I'm sure there was a lot more...

What is it with age 27?
Robert Johnson, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, ...

Winehouse is the latest addition to this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Ben » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:46 am

Such a waste. All very sad.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby plwk » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:53 am

Anicca, dukkha, anatta...May she encounter Dhamma and attain liberation :anjali:

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby David2 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:13 am

It seems like the 20s are a critical age...
You either abandon bad habits (like drug taking) or you don't...
If you don't it is very dangerous that your bad habits intensify... which will increase the probability of death.
So encountering the teachings of the Dhamma in your 20s is perfect timing I guess.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:37 am

Greetings,

She'd been one of the living dead for a few years now... for her to be biologically dead too seems perfectly normal.

Metta,
Retro. :)
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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Fede » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:26 pm

I had been thinking along the same lines, Retro.
Death-wish and all that...someone didn't want to improve or modify, focus or re-build....

on a path to self-destruction, if ever there was such a case....

My first thoughts when hearing the news were "I knew it.... just a matter of when...."

Sadly, no :jawdrop: there.....
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby BlackBird » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:02 pm

By god she could sing though.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Magpie » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:31 pm

It is sad. She grew up in my neighborhood. I wasn't very interested in her, but always hoped she would recover from addiction.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby manas » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:50 pm

I would not want to judge Winehouse's level of wakefulness during her troubled life. We should be very careful not to look at people like her and assume that 'we are practising dhamma, and she wasn't'. What, did we see inside her heart, that we can make such judgements? Ok, she did drugs...but if we do judgement, and spiritual pride, that's hardly very enlightened either.
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby adosa » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:32 am

"To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas" - Dhammapada 183

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby bukowski » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:36 am

Hi all. I work with people with drug addiction issues. It's a very complicated area, with many individual causes, and many routes to recovery. A large number of people do recover from their addiction issues, but it seems to be a chronically relapsing condition, and requires a change of life and lifestyle to fully recover.

A number of my clients have lost their lives through this condition. Many have recovered against the odds and the expectations of those around them.

A death like this is always sad, and deserves our compassion.

Metta, bukowski.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Tex » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:00 pm

A shame, indeed.

May her next life be filled with more peace than this one was.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:49 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:58 am

A shamey I can't get sound!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby adosa » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:27 am

"To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas" - Dhammapada 183

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby manas » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:36 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:45 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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