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Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:44 am
by plwk
Watch this and find out...

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:53 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
plwk wrote:Watch this and find out...
It's not an American problem only. I only wish one conducted such a survey in some European countries - Poland, for instance . . .

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:04 pm
by catmoon
Did the test. Scored 93%, with only 1% of respondants doing better.

But then, I'm not American, so I guess it doesn't count.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:58 pm
by plwk
Agreed treehuggingoctopus... I recall watching one youtube video (now taken off by its uploader) some years back where a team went to a famous and popular Ch'an temple in Taiwan and went about interviewing those who were busy making incense offerings and all of their respondents basically claimed they were 'Buddhist' but when asked what if they knew what are the Four Noble Truths and Noble Eightfold Path, the responses were blank stares, 'dunno', 'I pray to all' and the classic one: 'ask the temple'... and featured a Bhiksuni lamenting on the widespread ignorance, so if this is their attitude towards 'Buddhism', I shudder to think what they know about others...

Yeah yeah catty, Canada is within samsara, no? lol

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:02 pm
by Konchog1
It seems most people who are born to a religion know the least about it. Only converts and atheists know a lot about religions.

Normal I think.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:03 pm
by Infinite
I got 100% and I am American. :rolling:

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:05 pm
by pueraeternus
plwk wrote:... and featured a Bhiksuni lamenting on the widespread ignorance, so if this is their attitude towards 'Buddhism', I shudder to think what they know about others...
Also unfortunate is that not all Bhikshus are trained and educated in the basic philosophical tenets. Though the situation has improved, in many parts of Asia you can still find monks who are mostly providing ritual service.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:59 am
by Wesley1982
Your country or regional location shouldn't be associated with your religious IQ.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 am
by Infinite
Wesley1982 wrote:Your country or regional location shouldn't be associated with your religious IQ.
It shouldn't but it does have influences especially in regards to the fact that American Public Education is largely Ethnocentric. This is why the Pew Poll research shows that increased education past High School shows a dramatic increase in knowledge of various world religions.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 am
by Wesley1982
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
plwk wrote:Watch this and find out...
It's not an American problem only. I only wish one conducted such a survey in some European countries - Poland, for instance . . .
Poland is where blessed Pope John Paul II originated from.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 am
by Infinite
Wesley1982 wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
plwk wrote:Watch this and find out...
It's not an American problem only. I only wish one conducted such a survey in some European countries - Poland, for instance . . .
Poland is where blessed Pope John Paul II originated from.
And? :thinking:

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:20 am
by Wesley1982
Infinite wrote: And? :thinking:
And well, you follow through with the thread. American education is different than Chinese education by standards.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:36 am
by Infinite
Wesley1982 wrote:
Infinite wrote: And? :thinking:
And well, you follow through with the thread. American education is different than Chinese education by standards.
That was the strangest non sequitur probably ever.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:24 am
by steveb1
Yes, religious Americans - many of them - are that stupid. They hardly think about their beliefs at all, and when they do, they turn a blind eye to legitimate criticisms of their beliefs.

They believe that their eternal salvation rests on affirmation of certain "right beliefs" and in a "right relationship" with God. Anything that challenges their spiritual status quo is really Satan in disguise, because to question the truth of their religion is to question the religion; is to question God's having "ordained" or "instituted" that religion; is to question God; is to commit the unforgiveable sin; is to lose God and salvation and the hope of Heaven.

For these kinds of believers, therefore, there is a built-in defense mechanism for avoiding truths, attitudes, and ways of thinking that would in any way question the core beliefs.
There is a built-in mechanism that supports such mindless credos as "God said it; I believe it; that settles it".

Moreover, the religious dogmas as usually presented, are not designed to withstand much critical evaluation. It is so much easier just to "take it all on faith".
Which, to my mind, is a primary reason why so many religious Americans flunked the religious literacy test. They are scared and intellectually lazy.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:49 am
by Rakz
6/6 here.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:09 am
by Infinite
Nighthawk wrote:6/6 here.
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There is the extended one. I do blame my high score on the amount of research I have done especially in regards to the three Abrahamic Faiths before I ever came across Buddhism. When I had my crisis of faith as a Christian I hit the books and hard.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:41 am
by Rakz
Infinite wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:6/6 here.
http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-re ... knowledge/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is the extended one. I do blame my high score on the amount of research I have done especially in regards to the three Abrahamic Faiths before I ever came across Buddhism. When I had my crisis of faith as a Christian I hit the books and hard.
Thanks. Scored 93%

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:23 am
by Wesley1982
Infinite wrote: There is the extended one. I do blame my high score on the amount of research I have done especially in regards to the three Abrahamic Faiths before I ever came across Buddhism. When I had my crisis of faith as a Christian I hit the books and hard.
Same here. I spent about 12 years studying and practicing Christianity before coming here to Dharma Wheel.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:19 am
by Rakz
Test was pretty easy for me as I've investigated just about every religion until settling with Buddhism.

Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:28 pm
by seeker242
FWIW, 99.9% of all human beings are pretty stupid, regardless of nationality! It's better to look at one's own stupidity rather than someone else's IMO. There is more than enough stupidity right in the mirror, enough to keep one busy for many lifetimes. :)