Are religious Americans really this stupid?

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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:10 pm

Wesley1982 wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
plwk wrote:Watch this and find out...


It's not an American problem only. I only wish one conducted such a survey in some European countries - Poland, for instance . . .


Poland is where blessed Pope John Paul II originated from.


Blessed. Right. :rolling:
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby ryu » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:47 pm

mmmm.....small things small minds
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby Tenso » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:10 am

treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Wesley1982 wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:Watch this and find out...

Poland is where blessed Pope John Paul II originated from.


Blessed. Right. :rolling:


Not cool brah.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:08 pm

Nighthawk wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:Blessed. Right. :rolling:


Not cool brah.


Why exactly not cool, pray explain?

JPII hype is utter and complete bollocks. The truth is that's the guy who:

1. all his life strove hard to undo the liberal Second Vatican Council reforms and replace it with a hard, well-defined and centred party line
2. was best buddies with leading right-wing dictators in South America
3. did his best to destroy liberation theology
4. engaged in an 'ecumenic' dialogue - which in truth was an uneasy conversation with Judaism and Orthodox and Protestant Christianity; no other denomination proved good enough. His portrayal of Buddhism in Crossing the Threshold of Hope is as scathing as it is wildly inaccurate
5. worked very, very hard against the so-called 'civilization of death' (cf. the 'rotten West' Stalinists ranted about) - which was/is in fact the liberal, tolerance-based kind of society most of us take for granted these days
6. fought to limit the use of contraceptives, the move that proved particularly fatal in Africa, for obvious reasons
7. was misogynistic to the very bone
8. regularly covered sex abuse scandals

Quite a paragon of virtue indeed.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby Tenso » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:52 pm

treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:Blessed. Right. :rolling:


Not cool brah.


Why exactly not cool, pray explain?

JPII hype is utter and complete bollocks. The truth is that's the guy who:

1. all his life strove hard to undo the liberal Second Vatican Council reforms and replace it with a hard, well-defined and centred party line
2. was best buddies with leading right-wing dictators in South America
3. did his best to destroy liberation theology
4. engaged in an 'ecumenic' dialogue - which in truth was an uneasy conversation with Judaism and Orthodox and Protestant Christianity; no other denomination proved good enough. His portrayal of Buddhism in Crossing the Threshold of Hope is as scathing as it is wildly inaccurate
5. worked very, very hard against the so-called 'civilization of death' (cf. the 'rotten West' Stalinists ranted about) - which was/is in fact the liberal, tolerance-based kind of society most of us take for granted these days
6. fought to limit the use of contraceptives, the move that proved particularly fatal in Africa, for obvious reasons
7. was misogynistic to the very bone
8. regularly covered sex abuse scandals

Quite a paragon of virtue indeed.


That's not the point. Laughing and insulting leaders of other religions is a stupid and immature thing to do as it breeds hatred and anger. A fine example would be the Danish cartoons on Mohammad.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:58 pm

You know, I insulted no one. I didn't exactly laugh at JPII either, I laughed at his being described as 'blessed' - which is a wildly inaccurate description, IMO.

And I see no reason whatsoever why I shouldn't criticise religious leaders - just as I see no reason to forbid those who feel like doing that from criticising Buddhist masters, my teacher included.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby AlexanderS » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:41 pm

That's not the point. Laughing and insulting leaders of other religions is a stupid and immature thing to do as it breeds hatred and anger. A fine example would be the Danish cartoons on Mohammad.


It is even more stupid to respond to a random small cartoon picture with serious violence which led to several deaths and the burning of danish embassies.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby ryu » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:15 pm

The church has got alot to answer but fighting fire with fire doesnt work. the future of buddhism looks healthier than the future of the vatican and the present is a product of the past

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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby Redfaery » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:32 pm

treehuggingoctopus wrote:You know, I insulted no one. I didn't exactly laugh at JPII either, I laughed at his being described as 'blessed' - which is a wildly inaccurate description, IMO.

And I see no reason whatsoever why I shouldn't criticise religious leaders - just as I see no reason to forbid those who feel like doing that from criticising Buddhist masters, my teacher included.


Well...JPII has been beatified, and the title for those who have been beatified is "Blessed." Just like if someone is canonized, they're referred to as a Saint. It's the title conferred by the ritual.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby dharmagoat » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:13 pm

Infinite wrote:http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/"

OMG, I got 100%.

And I am about as irreligious as they come.
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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby Kim O'Hara » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:56 pm

seeker242 wrote:FWIW, 99.9% of all human beings are pretty stupid, regardless of nationality! It's better to look at one's own stupidity rather than someone else's IMO. There is more than enough stupidity right in the mirror, enough to keep one busy for many lifetimes. :)

... and once we cure the stupidity we can start working to eradicate the ignorance, greed and aversion. We could be here for quite some time, folks.

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Re: Are religious Americans really this stupid?

Postby Kim O'Hara » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:01 pm

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