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What grows to a lie? - Dhamma Wheel

What grows to a lie?

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What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:28 am

Dear Friends,

All starts with a lie, if we stop lying, we would be there.

What about expressions which are growing into a lie. For example: You tell somebody something, which is the true, but it is retold in a wrong way. What would be the karmic effect on the one who told it first.

Does his action ends as long as it is retold?
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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:36 am

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Re: What grows to a lie?

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:08 am

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:52 am

_/\_
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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:29 am

http://www.schmuckzauberei.blogspot.com/

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:44 pm

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:53 pm

Dear Hanzze, this is a bit speculative, but I will try.

If you tell a lie, it is your intention and wrong speech, not anybody else's.

You inherit the kamma for your intentions and actions.

If someone else passes on your lie, not knowing it is a lie, and has good intentions, it is still your lie.

It doesn't become the other one's lie, because he does not intentionally try to deceive.

But if he knows it is a lie, and still passes it on, to help you deceive, he is an accomplice and shares into the kamma of lying.

In short: You have to know that you are lying, and you have to intend to.


Is this helpful? :smile:

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:57 pm

_/\_
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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:59 pm

I already explained that.

Please read it again and let it sink in.

Chew the words. :smile:
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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:16 pm

_/\_
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Re: What grows to a lie?

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:13 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:27 am

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Kenshou » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:29 am

How 'bout, craving/aversion/delusion?

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:48 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:58 am

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: What grows to a lie?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:35 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_


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