Konchog1 wrote:"The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless."
- Alan Moore
That's really the easy way out and what I believed for a long time, thus my interest in Masonry, the esoteric judeo-christian mystery traditions, chaos magic, etc. Alan Moore is a self-professed occultist who has made a career out of influencing people, so I"m not sure why you would quote him as some sort of response. Robert Anton Wilson essentially said the same thing, both were big fans of Aleister Crowley, as was I. I have a ton of Crowley books sitting around, actually, as well as Alan Moore's "Promethea" series, btw. And Several RAWilson books ta boot, including the humorous "Illuminatus!" trilogy which I was quite convinced for the longest time is really the way things are.
However, as I said, I was raised in a cult. This one
. Created by a 33rd Degree Mason (notice the pyramid gravestone in front of the Masonic Lodge in those photos).
The picture painted by Svali rings really true to me and sounds eerily familiar to my own upbringing. She calls them "meetings" and they met 3x a week, they condition their children (brainwashing), they compartmentalized their behavior and laughed at the rest of the world for being duped. She could be describing the cult I grew up in, which is overflowing with child abuse, btw. International real estate moguls who run a very tight ship and have people absolutely brainwashed. Their followers actually proudly call themselves "the faithful and discreet slave class" and expend all their free time in efforts to convert people, raise money and donate it to the organization. What Svalia describes is just a more severe form of the same thing and, in Italy, people don't laugh at such ideas like we do here because they KNOW such organizations exist. Note the Wikipedia article I linked. (Btw, ever been to the Vatican? I have. Weird place for sure.)
You know how you see testimony in court and on the news about mind-control victims? They say they were abused until their minds became fragmented, etc.? Well, my extended family was also in this cult; 3 families with a total of 8 children. Let me tell you a little bit about the lives we've all led... My brother tried to kill himself when he was 17. I often thought about it myself. I vividly recall my mother jumping on top of me, telling me she hated me, and spitting in my face ("I HATE YOU!" Ptooey). This was because I told her I was old enough to make up my own mind and I no longer wanted to go to these "meetings." I was kicked out at age 15. I briefly returned home when I was 16 and then moved out of my own choice and worked at McDonalds to support myself. My mom wasn't the worst person, she was trying to steer me "right," in her opinion. She helped me do stuff like apply to college and we have a good relationship now. She didn't pay for college, though, since that is discouraged by her religion (she denies it now because in this day and age it seems rather unseemly to discourage college and tell people that they should instead try to recruit others into the religion, so the organization has brainwashed their "slaves" into believing this never happened. My brother also can't seem to remember this, even though it is printed in various publications of theirs).
But, that's not all. Like I said, my extended family was all in the 'borg. I have 6 first cousins from 2 different families. 1 is schizophrenic, 1 is a sociopath (these are real evaluations, btw, I'm not just being loose with my terminology). The schizophrenic tried to kill himself twice before he finally cracked and became schizophrenic. The sociopath also tried to kill herself (which is odd, for a sociopath, so I think it was likely just manipuation on her part). The sociopath says she was abused sexually as a kid (who knows if she's just lying) and herself had sex with a 15-year old boy a few years ago, when she returned to "The Truth" to be a "good girl" again after several years of being "worldly." So the 15 year old was a JW boy. She was about 34 at the time. She moves from place to place constantly, basically manipulating people. That's how she gets by. She has 2 brothers and they live together, both single 30-something year old men, who are socially dysfunctional potheads. According to the sociopath sister, they do nothing but smoke pot and play video games and they live in low-income housing (projects). Also, the youngest one has anxiety and locks himself in the closet and mumbles. I asked if maybe he was chanting a mantra like meditation and she said that he just mumbles to himself and then locks himself in the closet when it gets bad so nobody will see him or bother him.
Back to the schizophrenic's family... his brother lived at home doing nothing until he was 30. He was definitely clinically depressed, although he never got treatment. The only reason he finally left home was because his sister's husband basically GAVE him a job and a place to live in a different city. He was scared and almost didn't do it, but he just HAD to get out of that nuthouse. Not only is his brother schizophrenic, but their mom has something mentally wrong with her for sure, but is undiagnosed, the father does, too, and he behaved very much like my mom (but worse) when they were growing up. Very abusive dad and then the mom basically did everything to spite the father. So, he would come down hard on the kids and then she would undermine everything he said. When the youngest boy was about 12 he was getting obese, so the father said he had to go on a diet. What did the mother do? She bought him an entire DRAWER full of candy bars so the diet would fail. She's even given the schizophrenic money to buy marijuana against doctor's orders. She actively works to promote discord for some reason.
I almost forgot! My mom has seen UFOs and a flaming demonic head chase her up the cellar stairs as well as some other things. She claims this activity started the first week that she began meeting with the JWs for a Bible Study. When she told them about it, they said, "Oh yes, that's the demons trying to stop you from learning the Truth." That got her hook-line and sinker. If you Google the topic a bit, you will see JW's and demonic harrassment is quite a popular topic and apparently commonplace. I recall hearing many stories of furniture moving around, etc. One time I was at an elder's house for dinner and he said they had a lot of trouble with demons in the semi-recent past. He went on to say they would leave the living room to go to the bathroom and when they came back all the furniture would be stacked up to the ceiling and then books started flying off the shelves at them. Scared the living crap out of me and I did not wander off by myself in that house at all, even to use the bathroom. I myself had things fly around the house when my brother brought me a version of their Bible. Which I then threw in the garbage. When I was a kid, an allegedly "possessed" girl was taken from house-to-house. She actually slept in my bed for a few nights and I had to sleep on the couch. She ended up marrying a very abusive man and becoming anoerexic because of his mental abuse (he beats her, too, and cheats on her). She sent my mom a letter some years back after NO contact and said she was really happy I got free from that evil religion. This really hurt my mom's feelings. Well, it turns out that this poor abused woman was actually sexually molested by her father and brothers. This came out from her sister, who told my mom directly. As I said, sexual abuse is very common in this group. If anyone accuses another of sexual abuse, they are programmed to tell an elder, NOT the police. The elder will NOT tell the police either, btw. The matter is "dealt with" internally. Also, the charge backfires unless you have a second witness. So, child abuse is very easy to get away with, because how often do you molest someone in front of someone else? Also, the "possessed"/molested girl's father WAS an elder.
Hope you enjoyed the cool story, bros.