padma norbu wrote:
Food_Eatah wrote:Karma is a universal force. Greed is greed, "cultural excuses" is just another delusion. You make it sound like 2500 years ago people in India doesn't crave alot of sex with different women.
But hey, I left all that punk rock, metal, hardcore, indie, hiphop crap behind me now. Musicians did not offer me peace and spiritual growth. Buddha's teachings did. Pop culture is just another sort of cocaine one should be more mindful about.
What is "sexual misconduct" (kamesu micchacara)? Here are two definitions in the Buddha's own words.
"One conducts oneself wrongly in matters of sex; one has intercourse with those under the protection of father, mother, brother, sister, relatives or clan, or of their religious community; or with those promised to someone else, protected by law, and even with those betrothed with a garland" (Book of Tens, Anguttara Nikaya, X, 206).
"Abandoning sexual misconduct, one abstains from sexual misconduct; he does not have intercourse with women who are protected by their mother, father, mother and father, brother, sister, or relatives, who have a husband, who are protected by law, or with those already engaged" (See Bhikkhu Bodhi translation, In the Buddha's Words, p. 159, based on MN41; Saleyyaka Sutra; I 286-90).
Sexual misconduct or "wrong sensual indulgence" is karmically harmful behavior. On account of karma it will result in suffering and unsatisfactoriness now and/or in the future.
Kama [not to be confused with karma] denotes pleasure associated with the senses, particularly sexual pleasure -- as in the legendary Sanskrit classic, the Kama Sutra. Sensual misconduct is wrongdoing for the sake of satisfying sensual desire. This harm may be to oneself or others. For example, there can be harm by overindulgence, such as gluttony/obesity or alcoholic intoxication. This is because craving arises, and one habitually tries to satisfy it in an ultimately unsatisfactory manner.
Buddha did not teach that householders should abstain from sex, nor did he proclaim that they should engage in sex only in the context of marriage.
I guess I should link this just so I don't pretend I wrote it myself. http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/200 ... fined.html