maybay wrote:The US is the result of wanting to break off from European society and there's no reason to suspect their aims were anything different from your own. How is your motivation different?
The US is a failed society on many levels. Over time the US will eventually do the right thing but this can span generations (racism, slavery and continued anti-Gay hatred are three examples - only slavery was eliminated over time in 1964, racism abates but is still a force and Gay people were just declared to be people in the US).
Ideally I would like to establish a self-sufficient (I am aware of the impossibility of that in the long term) community, ideally a Buddhist community, were people can living peacefully without incurring onerous debt and pursue their life goals.
Or just live by myself nicely somewhere but still supporting the goals of recreating a positive society.
We were taught that US society was fair and just in the long term, even usually in the short term. This has proven to be false. There are many longstanding problems in US society some of which are not even acknowledged. Homelessness is one of those: in the current reimagining of the problem homelessness is primarily a result of an unintended consequence of a Reagan Administration reform: however homelessness is a longterm problem going back to at least the 1920's - it most likely has a longer history and IMV it appears to be caused in part by the society deciding in a sense to reject particular people and deprive them of resources very much like Shirley Jackson's "Lottery"*. A similar process seems to be at play currently with unemployment (i.e. unemployment is not being caused by strictly market forcces). I am suggesting an alternative society not founded on materialism and economic Darwinism but on compassion and learning for the purpose of serving sentient beings.
*So how can this happen? There are not explicitly defined social rules undergirding individual societies and communities that actually run the society. Social interaction at this scale is governed by these rules behind the scenes. These rules form a computational system. One of the computational results is the identification of and rejection of undesirable people. This is related to the multiple levels of control of people that in an extreme form results in slavery. I don't know if sociology covers this in this way but I have read of a couple of professors of sociology at the University of Toronto that wrote a paper in the late-90's primarily on demographics predicting large scale social instability and at least touched on these unacknowledged rules. And as a computer science person I tend to see most things as computational systems.