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Out of body experience/astral projection

Postby Enochian » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:10 pm

What is Namdrol's take on the "New Age" topic of Out of Body experience/astral projection?
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Re: Out of body experience/astral projection

Postby Dechen Norbu » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:56 pm

I have no clue about this take.
Mine is that whatever new agers might have done with it, it's a "stolen topic" :lol: for sure as this phenomena predates the new age movement for many centuries.
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Re: Elements

Postby Enochian » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:06 pm

Namdrol wrote:I am very familiar with WET tradition, particularly the Crowleyan tradition. It is not even remotely the same.

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Um, no I followed the techniques of Robert Bruce. The top authority of OBE.

I only learned about Western Mysticism just recently, like in the last couple of months.

But I realized that western mysticism is a turd sandwhich.
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Re: Elements

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:13 pm

I know Robert personally. He's a nice fellow. But considering him a top authority in OBE is quite a stretch.
ChNN dream yoga is much more effective, if you want to know.
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Re: Elements

Postby Enochian » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:14 pm

Dechen Norbu wrote:I know Robert personally. He's a nice fellow. But considering him a top authority in OBE is quite a stretch.
ChNN dream yoga is much more effective, if you want to know.



If he is not the top authority, who is?

I've been doing this for 5 years and follow Robert Bruce's instructions to the letter.
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Re: Elements

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:21 pm

I can start picking things here and there and write good books. There's a public, there's an editor... would that make me an authority?
Listen, the fellow is a very nice chap, but that's all. I really liked him as a person and I think his books are cool.
But new age cool. :smile:

If you do the night practice and gain enough awareness, OBE is only a little step further. Being aware and present with your mental body makes the process easy.
If you practice yantra yoga and dream yoga... it becomes easy. Just see that you don't forget the main point of the practice, which isn't OBE for sure.

Edit: 5 years and still nothing? time to change method, no? ;)
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Re: Elements

Postby Enochian » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:24 pm

Dechen Norbu wrote:But new age cool. :smile:



Here is the problem with that New Age label you just threw at me.

OBE is NOT accepted by scientific community. So only by DEFAULT, OBE is considered "New Age".
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Re: Elements

Postby Dechen Norbu » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:36 pm

Enochian wrote:
Dechen Norbu wrote:But new age cool. :smile:



Here is the problem with that New Age label you just threw at me.

OBE is NOT accepted by scientific community. So only by DEFAULT, OBE is considered "New Age".

No. I'm not throwing any label at you either. Relax. :smile:
Buddhism main tenets aren't also accepted by the scientific community and that doesn't make them new age.
New Age is a syncretic rug of bits and pieces of "spirituality", according to the taste of the practitioners.
Let me give you an example:
People who mix Buddhism, Kabala, gardian angels, ascended masters, Reiki, UFO's, OBE, mediumistic seanses, crystals, runes, tarot, groups of these, all of them or different combinations, can safely be called new age. :lol:
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