udawa wrote:Go to India or anywhere else in the 'developing' world and you will see real poverty.
There was real poverty in the UK, pre-second world war (see Orwell etc), but now? Relative deprivation and genuine suffering, often caused by addiction or poor mental health - there's plenty of that around, no doubt. And the street homeless live close to the edge.
Old Delhi in the late 1970's was strangely reminiscent of Dickens' London. Things have moved on from there, I think. Let's hope they don't go back....
Do the poor in developed countries not have the right to feel anguish just because elsewhere in the world it is far worse?
I'm in Varanasi, India at the moment and indeed the poverty in India can be quite severe.
Strangely, Bhihar state is said to be the poorest state in all of India, but I see the poor people there in rural areas, while clearly not well-to-do, wearing clean clothes and not diseased looking. But then you visit Delhi and see people in rags, malnourished and clearly diseased. The rural people don't make much money, but they're properly fed and clothed. The urban poor suffer quite severely.
On that note, though, I think poverty in developed countries is just as severe when it comes to mental anguish. One might live in the UK or Canada and have access to great medical services and state welfare, but when you're struggling to make ends meet and have no idea where the next rent payment is coming from, the anguish is just as severe as in India I imagine.
I come from the working poor in Canada and can vouch for the fact that living in poverty even in such a nation as Canada can be full of great anguish. You might still have food and health, unlike in some places elsewhere in the world, but having to produce the monthly rent and balancing all your bills on a fixed income with unexpected costs coming up can be a living hell for many.
I mean keep in mind in many cities even if you make $1500 / month, your rent might be $800 or more. By the time you buy your food, pay your bills and look after your children if you have any, you have nothing left over. If you suddenly have an unexpected cost arise like a medical emergency, injury resulting in a loss of income or you lose your job, you're basically up sh!t creek without a paddle. Don't tell me that isn't suffering just because the poor in India also suffer immensely.