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Buddhism and sexuality

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Buddhism and sexuality

Postby clw_uk » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:03 pm

Tying into another topic, i read somewhere that in thailand their was a request to expel 1000 monks from the sangha because they were homosexual. Is there a rule that one cant be a homosexual and join the sangha?

Ive always thought that the buddha taught one shouldnt identify with sexuality be it hetrosexuality or homosexuality as lust is just lust and dukkha (thats me simplifying) am i right in thinking this?
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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

Postby clw_uk » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:23 pm

That is what i thought, i was just confused because of the article i read about homosexual monks being expelled.
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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:29 pm

I heard someone ask S. N. Goenka once, "what do you think of homosexuality?" Goenka's response was, "homosexuality, heterosexuality, it doesn't matter, it is all sexuality, all things that need to eventually be transcended."

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:39 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

Postby Fede » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:39 pm

Craig, I don't know whether this addresses any unanswered questions you might have (which is a bit presumptuous of me) but in essence, you are right that Lust is just lust, however you dress it up, whatever persuasion.
There is nothing wrong with any form of sexual practice, providing it does not break the third precept, and providing you know it must be eventually abandoned as one of the conditions we cling to.

For an ordained person, it is a pre-requisite.
For a layperson, there is nothing to say that sexual abstention is either necessary or skilful.
But everything in Moderation.
Inncluding Moderation.

Middle way.
Simple.
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

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Re: Buddhism and sexuality

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