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GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Heruka » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:49 pm

Discovery of GPS tracker becomes privacy issue
By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer





"Law enforcement advocates for the devices say GPS can eliminate time-consuming stakeouts and old-fashioned "tails" with unmarked police cars. The technology had a starring role in the HBO cops-and-robbers series "The Wire" and police use it to track every type of suspect — from terrorist to thieves stealing copper from air conditioners.

That investigators don't need a warrant to use GPS tracking devices in California troubles privacy advocates, technophiles, criminal defense attorneys and others.

The federal appeals court based in Washington D.C. said in August that investigators must obtain a warrant for GPS in tossing out the conviction and life sentence of Antoine Jones, a nightclub owner convicted of operating a cocaine distribution ring. That court concluded that the accumulation of four-weeks worth of data collected from a GPS on Jones' Jeep amounted to a government "search" that required a search warrant.

Judge Douglas Ginsburg said watching Jones' Jeep for an entire month rather than trailing him on one trip made all the difference between surveilling a suspect on public property and a search needing court approval.

"First, unlike one's movements during a single journey, the whole of one's movements over the course of a month is not actually exposed to the public because the likelihood anyone will observe all those movements is effectively nil," Ginsburg wrote. The state high courts of New York, Washington and Oregon have ruled similarly.


The Obama administration last month asked the D.C. federal appeals court to change its ruling, calling the decision "vague and unworkable" and arguing that investigators will lose access to a tool they now use "with great frequency."

After the D.C. appeals court decision, the 9th Circuit refused to revisit its opposite ruling.

The panel had concluded that agents could have gathered the same information by following Juan Pineda-Moreno, who was convicted of marijuana distribution after a GPS device alerted agents he was leaving a suspected "grow site."




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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101017/ap_ ... g_warrants
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Indrajala » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:25 pm

I noticed on facebook some kind of automatic (or it looks like that?) status update that informs everyone when you pass by a notable location (such and such a station, etc...).

Cell phones I imgagine all have GPS tracking installed now. I know mine has it. It is convenient when you want to look for a certain location and it displays exactly where you are on the map. This is useful in Japan where there are almost no street names.

Still, I'm sure I could be found quickly if someone had access to the network.
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby termite » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:00 pm

Soon, everyone will know where I am except for me. :rolling:
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Postby ronnewmexico » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:03 pm

As Mussolini stated.....a facist state is a state of and about the enableing of the corporation(or something to that effect.

personal rights personal freedom of what corporate benfit is that.
The judiciary...reflects but the greater.....the extension of facism, sans (for now at least) the overt presence of racism antisemitism and nationalism as they simply(for now at least) do not represent corporate benefit by engageing in those things.
If they did they the peoples of those fine places would be lead directly there....

For now it is privacy and personal right to freedom from interference....all sides agree it is not important, and the libertarian voices find it important but also find social security socialism and like medicare to be eliminated.

So what a mother to do...watch the destruction of a empire and the degregation of its citizens standings in all matters to include private rights.
Glen Greeenwald had a good article about the american empire falling a couple of days ago...
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Indrajala » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:35 pm

Despite its convenient and appealing consumer application, we now have the technology that would allow for a fascist police state that some decades ago was only fiction in books and film.

As of late much of the world seems on a guided course towards economic woes which fuels social unrest. When the masses have enough and resort to violence it will be all the more reason to utilize the new technology to monitor and keep in line the masses of humanity.
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Postby ronnewmexico » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:13 pm

Yes certainly and the masses will think it is in their best interests which in a sense it is.

It will protect them in a way but the cause of the problem is of course corporatism not personal freedom.

So such lack of personal freedom and privacy will fail in the end to protect them from what they fear.

Just looking around..... I live in a fairly rural area but one step on the freeway or roads approximating such and cameras are everywhere mounted on large poles 40 or so feet high. For no known reason nor purpose but present they undeniably are. The substantiation for a series I know of locally is to watch wild game movements.....??? They put up fencing to do that but mysteriously included these 40 foot camera poles and cameras with the project. I reasonably conjecture part of the funding for the project(adjacent to a interstate highway)...is from homeland security(cameras are on the highway as well). People in the US at least are just not really looking around, or subconsciously avert such knowledge.
One outside Sante Fe, no fencing no equipment to do ticketing by remote camera, nothing....just a 40 foot pole with camera on the interstate. basically in the middle of nowhere(nearest the small town of Glorieta)...in cities...I think you just don't notice them as much.

Your communications are all being automatically screened for ten or so pharases, related to terrorism. A red flag of sorts will go up. The red flag incites as result a person in a certain branch of the government reviewing the context.
Sounds like science fiction..this is actually happening. I will now incite the red flag and necessitate the review.....bomb, bombing, terrorism, terrorist, NYC New York city, Jihad, Iran Iraq Afghanistan....
Presto chango...this thread is now subject to actual review and will be. Do the same on email the same result will follow. Suspected upon review and your entire computer will be accessed by remote access.

The mechanism is already firmly in place, not just in areas of known "terrorist" potential but for no known reason in the remotest of areas at times.

Spooky really spooky.
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Heruka » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:23 am

ronnewmexico wrote:

Your communications are all being automatically screened for ten or so pharases, related to terrorism. A red flag of sorts will go up. The red flag incites as result a person in a certain branch of the government reviewing the context.
Sounds like science fiction..this is actually happening. I will now incite the red flag and necessitate the review.....bomb, bombing, terrorism, terrorist, NYC New York city, Jihad, Iran Iraq Afghanistan....
Presto chango...this thread is now subject to actual review and will be. Do the same on email the same result will follow. Suspected upon review and your entire computer will be accessed by remote access.

The mechanism is already firmly in place, not just in areas of known "terrorist" potential but for no known reason in the remotest of areas at times.

Spooky really spooky.



this is indeed the case, this website is most certainly under project enchelon
they also have predictive software based on our algorithm's of day to day activity, google calls it a crystal ball, pre-crime will follow.


in 1984, when the thought police are knocking at your door...think..........................im out!


http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/29/038.html


of course your not going to read the links, this is already predicted.

like in my other posts

http://www.kdnuggets.com/companies/consulting.html

http://www.epsilon.com/
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby plwk » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:28 am

this is indeed the case, this website is most certainly surveilled

So are others.....And the point is.....
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Heruka » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:35 am

plwk wrote:
this is indeed the case, this website is most certainly surveilled

So are others.....And the point is.....



the grid/matrix is designed for you my dear, not men in caves.



ECHELON is a code word for an automated global interception and relay system operated by the intelligence agencies in five nations - the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (it is rumored that different nations have different code words for the project). While the United States National Security Agency (NSA) takes the lead, ECHELON works in conjunction with other intelligence agencies, including the Australian Defence Signals Directorate (DSD). It is believed that ECHELON also works with Britain's Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the agencies of other allies of the United States, pursuant to various treaties.(1)

These countries coordinate their activities pursuant to the UKUSA agreement, which dates back to 1947. The original ECHELON dates back to 1971. However, its capabilities and priorities have expanded greatly since its formation. According to reports, it is capable of intercepting and processing many types of transmissions, throughout the globe. In fact, it has been suggested that ECHELON may intercept as many as 3 billion communications everyday, including phone calls, e-mail messages, Internet downloads, satellite transmissions, and so on.(2) The ECHELON system gathers all of these transmissions indiscriminately, then distills the information that is most heavily desired through artificial intelligence programs. Some sources have claimed that ECHELON sifts through an estimated 90 percent of all traffic that flows through the Internet.(3)
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby Heruka » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:48 am

Heruka wrote:they also have predictive software based on our algorithm's of day to day activity, google calls it a crystal ball, pre-crime will follow.





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Postby Heruka » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:19 am

http://www.darpa.mil/ipto/solicit/baa/D ... -02_ID.pdf

The general goal of the ADAMS program is to create, adapt and apply technology to the
problem of anomaly characterization and detection in massive data sets. The
importance of anomaly detection is due to the fact that anomalies in data translate to
significant, and often critical, actionable information in a wide variety of application
domains.
While technology developed for ADAMS will have applicability in many domains, we will
use the problem of insider threat detection as a focal point in order to make sure that
the work is well grounded. We define insider threat as malevolent (or possibly
inadvertent) actions by an already trusted person in a secure environment with access
to sensitive information and information systems and sources. The focus is on
malevolent insiders that started out as “good guys.” The specific goal of ADAMS is to
detect anomalous behaviors before or shortly after they turn. Operators in the counterintelligence
community are the target end-users for ADAMS insider threat detection
technology.
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Re: GPS, And Your Perception Of Privacy.

Postby ronnewmexico » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:12 pm

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The greater point perhaps is, not to speak for H but to my personal opinion....it is like with armies and such. Generally when governments build such, it is not always in response to threat but first is the thing built and then it being built, must be used. Not in a consciously derived sense but in a other sense.

Building the apparatus for survielance to that way of thinking(whch is mine in this issue)...pretty much assures the circumstance of its use will present.

Considering the local talk on or against other countries such as china, due to incorrect perception of threat and combined with economic lack seems to be replicating in a sense the origination of the policies that eventually resulted in facist expression in europe in the 20's.

Of course this has differing focus and attribute...no antisemitism no racial componant, but the underlying basis and some initial presentations seem very similiar.
So how would one act in a 1920's germany as a buddhist....one may ask themselves that perhaps.
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