Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Tibet

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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby mañjughoṣamaṇi » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:49 pm

According to the Tibetan Chinese language blogger Woeser, Elliot Sperling was detained upon entering China and had his visa cancelled.

The Chinese tweets are:

国际著名藏学家、美国印第安纳大学中亚研究系教授Elliot Sperling(艾略特·史伯岭)先生,7月5日下午抵达北京首都国际机场,不但被拒绝入境,且被中国警察带到小房间拍照、盘问,禁止使用手机,上厕所被跟,扣留1个半小时,并被改原机票返回日期。史伯岭先生不得不登机返回。(1)

藏学家Elliot Sperling(艾略特·史伯岭)先生在北京首都国际机场询问被拒绝入境的原因,中国警察称不能(或不可)告诉。对这张被打上醒目黑叉的签证,史伯岭先生幽默地说:“热烈恭贺史伯岭获得中共授予外国人的人权奖!”(2) Image

藏学家Elliot Sperling(艾略特·史伯岭)先生被中国拒绝入境,据他分析主要原因不是因为他有关西藏问题的观点和研究,而是因为他作为伊力哈木·土赫提的挚友,与伊力哈木的关系。中国政府并不愿意有人说伊力哈木无罪,不愿意否认他们给伊力哈木制造的冤案,不愿意有人为他声援。(3)


She reports speculation that this has to do with his friendship with the Uyghur public figure, Ilham Tohti.
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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby dzogchungpa » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:04 pm

Osho wrote:As have I Malcolm, as have I.
Possibly best that all concerned do likewise and then make up their own minds.
Propaganda thrives on ignorance.
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Possibly best that all ignorant propagandists stop posting on this thread.
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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby Alfredo » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:15 pm

it might also have something to do with his writings on Tibet, at least one of which is a popularly-accessible work making hash of Chinese propaganda.

Also, his name appears on the Dalai-Lama supported "Committee of 100 for Tibet."
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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby kirtu » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:30 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:
theanarchist wrote:My guess is that Tibet will take the same route that the native Americans in south America have taken after the Spanish and Portugese conquest.
Or, just as likely, the same route that the Native Americans of Northern America, or the Aborigines of Australia, or... have.


The Australian Aborigines and American Indians were utterly defeated. More recently some of them have begun essentially following their own paths again (once the oppressors quit kidnapping and brainwashing them - imagine that).

Some of the tribes in Central America retreated into the jungle and have essentially created their own societies. The Chinese will not permit the Tibetans to do this.

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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:32 pm

Off topic posts removed.

Please stay on topic and refrain from ad hom statements.

Thank you.
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One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby Dan74 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:29 pm

Sorry folks for butting in and taking on the lame role of the Devil's Advocate's Advocate, but I don't think Ven Indrajala is a troll or a Chinese shill.

I think his position is ideologically consistent with his earlier ones and his disinterest in human stories as opposed to 'the big picture' as he sees it. I just hope he saves everyone (and himself) the trouble and withdraws from participation in this topic on which he's made his views abundantly clear.

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Re: Opinions on the Consequences of Chinese Occupation of Ti

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:24 pm

Since people are completely incapable of staying on topic and I am sick of having to remove posts I will lock this thread and keep it locked until somebody comes up with a REALLY good reason for reopening it.
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