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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby Jesse » Thu May 01, 2014 11:44 pm

My favorite:

Once there was a well known philosopher and scholar who devoted himself to the study of Zen for many years. On the day that he finally attained enlightenment, he took all of his books out into the yard, and burned them all.
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 02, 2014 2:07 am

སེམས་ལས་གཞན་མེད་པར་ནི་བློས་རིག་ནས།
དེ་ནས་སེམས་ཀྱང་མེད་པ་ཉིད་དུ་རྟོགས།
བློ་དང་ལྡན་པས་གཉིས་པོ་མེད་རིག་ནས།
དེ་མི་ལྡན་པའི་ཆོས་ཀྱི་དབྱིངས་ལ་གནས།

- Mahayansutralamkara
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri May 02, 2014 7:15 am

do you understand that 99% of the users have no idea how to read and understand what you just wrote?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 02, 2014 3:09 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:do you understand that 99% of the users have no idea how to read and understand what you just wrote?

Actually, I'm one of them. :smile:
Sorry, I was in a rush and forgot to post the translation.
Here is a slightly modified version of a translation by Ken McLeod:

    After the awareness that there is nothing other than mind
    Comes the understanding that mind, too, is nothing itself.
    The intelligent know that these two understandings are not things.
    They come to rest in the dharmadhatu, which is free from this knowledge.
Here is the version from the Thurman translation:

    Realizing intellectually that there is nothing apart from mind,
    she understands then that mind (itself) has no (ultimate) existence.
    Understanding that duality has no existence, such a genius dwells
    in the ultimate realm which has no (duality).

I would be curious to see how our resident Tibetan translators would translate this passage.
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri May 02, 2014 3:48 pm

yeah me too, two very different translations. a third one could shed some more light...
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby Gwenn Dana » Fri May 02, 2014 4:01 pm

Esoteric Teachings of the Tibetan Tantra, by C.A. Musés, CHAPTER SIX THE PRACTICE OF THE ILLUSORY BODY OR DREAM YOGA, DEPENDING ON FOREGOING HEAT YOGA wrote:The manifestations considered (by ordinary beings) as things having Dharma-form (color, shape, sound, taste, etc.) have never existed. Nevertheless, the actor and the action, the hearer and the sound, the seer and the vision, etc., are continuously manifesting themselves freely. If one realizes the Two-in-One View of "existence in voidness and voidness in existence," there will be no danger of falling into the extreme Realistic or Nihilistic views.


I think that adds well to the nihilism-trap that comes up here in some threads.
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 02, 2014 4:28 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:yeah me too, two very different translations. a third one could shed some more light...

The main difference seems to be how the word 'gnyis po' in the third line is understood. McLeod takes it to refer to the 2 previous understandings, Thurman's version takes it to mean 'duality'. Maybe both meanings are intended.

Here is Cabezon's translation of the first 2 lines:

    Having understood that objects are no different from the mind,
    Then the mind intself is also understood to be nonexistent.

Btw, McLeod's original translation reads as follows:

    After the awareness that there is nothing other than mind
    Comes the understanding that mind, too, is nothing itself.
    The intelligent know that these two understandings are not things.
    And then, not holding onto even this knowledge, they come to rest in the realm of totality.
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby Malcolm » Fri May 02, 2014 4:37 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
སེམས་ལས་གཞན་མེད་པར་ནི་བློས་རིག་ནས།
དེ་ནས་སེམས་ཀྱང་མེད་པ་ཉིད་དུ་རྟོགས།
བློ་དང་ལྡན་པས་གཉིས་པོ་མེད་རིག་ནས།
དེ་མི་ལྡན་པའི་ཆོས་ཀྱི་དབྱིངས་ལ་གནས།

- Mahayansutralamkara



Having come know that nothing exists apart from the mind,
then understanding the mind too does not exist,
the intelligent, knowing both do not exist,
dwell in the dharmadhātu that is without them.
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 02, 2014 4:53 pm

Malcolm wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:
སེམས་ལས་གཞན་མེད་པར་ནི་བློས་རིག་ནས།
དེ་ནས་སེམས་ཀྱང་མེད་པ་ཉིད་དུ་རྟོགས།
བློ་དང་ལྡན་པས་གཉིས་པོ་མེད་རིག་ནས།
དེ་མི་ལྡན་པའི་ཆོས་ཀྱི་དབྱིངས་ལ་གནས།

- Mahayansutralamkara



Having come know that nothing exists apart from the mind,
then understanding the mind too does not exist,
the intelligent, knowing both do not exist,
dwell in the dharmadhātu that is without them.

Thanks. Do you feel that Thurman's translation is justified?
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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri May 02, 2014 9:04 pm

Even though he be well-attired, yet if he is posed, calm, controlled and established in the holy life, having set aside violence towards all beings he, truly, is a holy man, a renunciate, a monk.

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sat May 03, 2014 4:50 pm

Living Fully ~ Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche

If one knows that everything is impermanent, one does not grasp, and if one does not grasp, one will not think in terms of having or lacking, and therefore one lives fully.

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun May 04, 2014 5:02 pm

Speak not harshly to anyone, for those thus spoken to might retort. Indeed, angry speech hurts, and retaliation may overtake you.

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue May 06, 2014 6:08 am

Little though he recites the sacred texts, but puts the Teaching into practice, forsaking lust, hatred, and delusion, with true wisdom and emancipated mind, clinging to nothing of this or any other world he indeed partakes of the blessings of a holy life.

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Tue May 06, 2014 10:20 am


A Profound Wish ~ Mingyur Rinpoche

When we recognize that others experience pain and unhappiness because they don’t recognize their real nature, we’re spontaneously moved by a profound wish for them to experience the same sense of peace and clarity that we’ve begun to know.

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue May 06, 2014 6:05 pm

Let none find fault with others; let none see the omissions and commissions of others. But let one see one’s own acts, done and undone.

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Tue May 06, 2014 7:32 pm


Befriending Problems ~ Mingyur Rinpoche

Instead of rejecting the problems and emotions, or surrendering to them, we can befriend them, working through them to reach an enduring, authentic experience of our inherent wisdom, confidence, clarity, and joy.

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed May 07, 2014 7:39 pm

All conditioned things are impermanent; when one sees this with wisdom, one turns away from suffering.

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu May 08, 2014 7:05 pm

Easy is what’s bad to do,
what’s harmful to oneself.
But what is good, of benefit,
is very hard to do.


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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri May 09, 2014 1:55 pm


Compassion or altruism is not about being perfect or just doing good; It’s about this daring heart that cherishes others and life itself.

-Ponlop Rinpoche

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

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Re: Dharma Quotes Thread

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri May 09, 2014 5:09 pm

Mind precedes all knowables,
mind's their chief, mind-made are they.
If with a corrupted mind
one should either speak or act
dukkha follows caused by that,
as does the wheel the ox's hoof.


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