Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Again i really wish one of you could name of of those chronic conditions in the field of general medicine for which therapies exist with a high success rate. I am actually interested to know, since this is one of the things the argument seems to revolve around.
and the funny part is the most effective treatments in psychology are being borrowed and adapted from contemplative methodologies.
This is true, and personally I consider it a good thing. Doesn't that disprove your idea of the industry remaining static though..at least with the "softer" end of things, where these therapies are more likely to be used?
I'm not quite sure why the inability to treat some chronic disorders has to do with the discussion, I don't think it's any more acceptable for doctors to charge people outrageous prices for ineffective treatments for physical ailments, than it is for a psychologist to charge outrageous prices for their ineffective treatments.
I'm not quite sure how it works in other countries, but in the good ol' USA, psychiatry and psychology are almost indistinguishable, because treatment almost ALWAYS consists of seeing both professions. Most practices have both types of doctors, most will schedule you appointments with both, and they work together.
My idea isn't that the field will remain static and needs to be disposed of, or any such thing, my argument is that currently
psychology is an ineffective field, which takes advantage of people.
TBH this discussion has probably devolved due to hostility concerning the topic -- so let's be clear what exactly we are arguing.
1. I am not arguing Psychologist's can prescribe medication.
2. I am not arguing the entire field should be scrapped, rather I believe it should be reformed, and believe they should be more honest about it's failings-- because not doing so ends up hurting lots of people.
3. It does seem most of the harm is caused by psychiatry, but even still psychologists use them for the basis for their treatments. for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic ... _Disorders
People here need to stop confusing psychologists and psychiatrists. Modern psychologists, at least in my country, are far far less dangerous than psychiatrists and they actually make an effort to understand people and the human mind. They might not always be very useful, but they don't throw dangerous drugs at you. Ive met quite a lot of people who have been quite gratefull to have gone through therapy with a skilled psychologist. I know quite a lot of psychology students and they mostly quite kind intelligent people.
Then your experiences are quite far removed from mine, and most people I know.
Ive met quite a lot of people who have been quite gratefull to have gone through therapy with a skilled psychologist.
They must have had quite a bit of money.
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