Karma Dorje wrote:Whose "conservative values" and what "traditional family models"? The nuclear family disrupted much older extended family models at the time of the industrial revolution when a mobile workforce became a key requirement.
I never mentioned nuclear family arrangements. I think traditional family arrangements at this point include it, but also extended families based on defined binary genders. Biological mothers and fathers.
Yes, society is constantly changing, but when I look at places like Ladakh or even Japan and Taiwan where family still means a lot to people, I see safer societies and more stability. My grandfather's generation had something similar and I am rather envious of such arrangements. You always had someone to go to if you needed help. People relied on each other. Extended family meant a lot.
You could use your argument to say that we shouldn't allow refugees from Somalia to come here because their culture will be disruptive, or that only those that meet the religious standards of the majority should be allowed in.
Intelligent conservatives actually propose this. If a culture is predictably incompatible with local values and ways of doing things, they shouldn't be permitted in. This is actually quite logical, though another topic to be discussed elsewhere.
Fortunately, here in Canada we do not make arbitrary legal distinctions based on gender identification and protect our citizens from intolerance.
Canada is a nanny state with increasing levels of thought police. This is nothing to be proud of.
You are not responsible for the larger society's social ills, but you are responsible for your own words and ideas in this discourse which clearly demonstrate your bigotry.
You grew up in Winnipeg. Do you seriously not think you were better off than people that grew up in the North End, dealing with alcoholic, often illiterate parents and high drop out rates?
You're jumping to conclusions about me when you know nothing about me.
My high school had problems with students bringing in guns. Most of my relatives dropped out of school. I did for a few months, too, but fortunately I had a compassionate teacher who helped me through my struggles.
I've been exposed to the evils of drugs (I never took any) and once had to deal with someone I know ending up in jail after a failed murder attempt on his mother after having taken shrooms. I've seen a lot of youth go through hell because of unstable family arrangements (quite often single parent families).
So, as a result of my past I've come to see social stability and solid family cohesion as paramount. I look at Japan or even Ladakh and envy their conservative values because for all the problems they face things seem a lot safer and stable. Households might have their internal problems, but it isn't like what I went through back home. Consequently, anything that undermines traditional households and family arrangements that otherwise work should be recognized as potentially the cause for social instability. That's why I am not key on the transgendered movement.
In Canada, almost every single corporation to speak of is headed by an executive team that is both white and male.
That's really more about class than it is about race. I grew up with minimal social connections and encouragement to get into higher education. I managed to get my education, sure, but not without a lot of personal struggle. I've had to suffer poverty and debt, too. I worked awful jobs at McDonalds and Subway where I was treated terribly. In retrospect I recognize it as class struggle. I was part of the proletariat, which isn't a racial issue at all.