Nuns in Thailand ... cause a stir!

[GrahamR]

What do you think of the ordination of nuns in Thailand?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews ... vestigated

Graham

[gregkavarnos]

The same think that I believe about the ordination of Buddhist nuns in any part of the world:

[Astus]

Let there be nuns!

[conebeckham]

Who could be against it? None. None should be against nuns.



Nun Vs. None

[conebeckham]

Seriously, though...it sounds like there are layers of issues here, with regard to Thai culture, nuns, dress codes, and gender issue bias........I know nothing about any of this, but it's interesting.

[Quiet Heart]

What do you think of the ordination of nuns in Thailand?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews ... vestigated

Graham

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I believe officially they can NOT be considered Nuns as by Theravada rules as they can not be ordained as Monks
The reason us that a female can only be ordained by another female .... and the last truelly ordained female Nun odained by Theravada rules died some years ago .... so no one is left to ordain another female by those rules.
Now I am aware that other Theravada nuns have been ordained outside of Thailand, but for the reasons I mentioned above they are not recognised by the Theravada Sangha here in Thailand.
I am not a Theravada Buddhist anyhow, and I am merely statimg what my understanding of the Theravada rules are.
If I am wromg, someone please correct me.

[GrahamR]

I believe officially they can NOT be considered Nuns as by Theravada rules as they can not be ordained as Monks
The reason us that a female can only be ordained by another female .... and the last truelly ordained female Nun odained by Theravada rules died some years ago .... so no one is left to ordain another female by those rules.
Now I am aware that other Theravada nuns have been ordained outside of Thailand, but for the reasons I mentioned above they are not recognised by the Theravada Sangha here in Thailand.
I am not a Theravada Buddhist anyhow, and I am merely statimg what my understanding of the Theravada rules are.
If I am wromg, someone please correct me.

This is a fair summary. The 'last' Bukkhuni were in the 13th century I think

Nuns who have been ordained overseas (Vietnam etc) have moved to Thailand and are ordaining nuns in Thailand.

Also some belong to the Theravada tradition and ordained in the west, people may recall the Ajarn Brahm debate about 3 years ago.

http://www.iwmcf.org/IWMC.html for example

I hope one day the Thai Sangha may be more progressive on this topic

With metta

Graham

[Madeliaette]

if the Buddha permitted nuns...... ...