Re: Eckhart Tolle on christmas
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:24 pm
What exactly is Tolle's Path?
And how exactly is he "further along" than the Dalai Lama?
And how exactly is he "further along" than the Dalai Lama?
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Ask him.justsit wrote:What exactly is Tolle's Path?
And how exactly is he "further along" than the Dalai Lama?
While I confess I don't know exactly what he teaches, can it really be said to be Dharma?Dharma is Dharma expressed through any form, Why do you guys always want to put dead guys on such unreachable pedestles and ignore the living enlightened ones who can exemplify the path?
Hi Johnny, his teachings are very much the dharma, take the time to read one of his books it will be worth your effort and will not conflict with any dharma teachings you have been given.Johnny Dangerous wrote:While I confess I don't know exactly what he teaches, can it really be said to be Dharma?
To me calling something Dharma is serious stuff, I might call something conventionally good, or conventionally true, but to me it would not be "true" in the way that Dharma is true. Dharma is true no matter what angle one views it from. There are lots of things that I think are for the good that aren't Dharma, I enjoy them, read them..am glad they are in the world. However, they still aren't Dharma.
What does he teach that you consider to be Dharma? From what little I read there was mention of bascially Anatman, but it sounded like a bit of a blunted version of it.
Can you sum up his teachings, and how they relate to Buddhism?
Pure mind is eternal, the form that was recognised as Siddarth Gotama has dissolved away.nilakantha wrote:Well Tolle is alive, the Buddha is dead(so words coming from presence).
How can the Buddha be dead? What an odd idea. We're told in the Lotus Sūtra:
Although I am always here without extinction
Through the power of skilful means
I manifest extinction and nonextinction.
If there are any sentient beings in other worlds
Who respect and believe in me,
I will also teach them the highest Dharma.
Haven't had such a laugh in ages. Touche!lowlydog wrote:Well Tolle is alive, ...justsit wrote: What exactly is Tolle offering that the Buddha does not?
On what grounds do you base this judgement?He seems to be at least at par with the Dalai Lama or a little further along the path.
So why make the above mentioned judgement?The level of attainment of others is really of no consequence to me...
Are you insinuating that the Dalai Lama merely spouts regurgitated thought? That the Dalai Lama does not come from a "place of wisdom"?...I just find his teachings to be coming from a place of wisdom and not mere regurgitated thought.
How does this match with the Buddha's teachings?lowlydog wrote:What is the truth about Christmas?
In the history of Christianity, if you believe you are the sole possessor of the truth then that belief has the power to corrupt your actions, even to the point of insanity – whether it’s the Catholic Inquisition or a big shopping spree. The Truth is inseparable from who you are. If you look for it in ideas, beliefs, or even gifts from the store, you will be deceived every time.
The true meaning of Christmas is that the very Being that you are is Truth. This is what Jesus meant when he said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.”
Jesus speaks of the inner essence identity of every human being. Some Christian writers call this the “Christ within”. The real meaning of Christmas is to find that essential self that is universally experienced as the Christ within no matter what your cultural or religious upbringing is. As we approach the ceremonial date of the birth of Christ and as many of you gather with friends and family, perhaps standing in the silence of the Christ within can keep bringing you back to Being - the eternal life that Christ promised human kind.
Hey greg,gregkavarnos wrote:PSOn what grounds do you base this judgement?He seems to be at least at par with the Dalai Lama or a little further along the path.So why make the above mentioned judgement?The level of attainment of others is really of no consequence to me...Are you insinuating that the Dalai Lama merely spouts regurgitated thought? That the Dalai Lama does not come from a "place of wisdom"?...I just find his teachings to be coming from a place of wisdom and not mere regurgitated thought.
How do you explain the fact that HHDL spends so much time approaching and contacting other religions and scientists, philosophers, artists etc...? Surely if he was merely "regurgitating thought" then he would limit himself to the thought that he is the representative of, rather than trying to broaden his knowledge and wisdom base?
TRUTH: RELATIVE OR ABSOLUTE?Astus wrote:How does this match with the Buddha's teachings?