Martyn wrote:We all feel a longing for spirituality; yes even atheists.
But in the west, we are programmed to be materialists.
How to reconcile the two?
Buddhism is the closest thing to a materialist religion; it doesn't need a creator god nor a messiah, and we can turn a blind eye to the supernatural s... sorry I'm unable to say the word - the things that don't agree with materialism - such as karma and rebirth.
I dunno, to me, it's not very spiritual.
Huifeng wrote:If one "turn[s] a blind eye to ... karma and rebirth" then one doesn't have any Buddhism to speak of.
gregkavarnos wrote:I'm still waiting for Martyn to tie in the "liberals" bit.
conebeckham wrote:This whole "Kalachakra Jihad" thing is a lot of nonsense... the only jihad is internal, against our own ignorance.
A careful examination of the Buddhist texts, however, particularly the Kalachakra literature, reveals both external and internal levels of battle that could easily be called "holy wars." An unbiased study of Islam reveals the same. In both religions, leaders may exploit the external dimensions of holy war for political, economic, or personal gain, by using it to rouse their troops to battle. Historical examples regarding Islam are well known; but one must not be rosy-eyed about Buddhism and think that it has been immune to this phenomenon. Nevertheless, in both religions, the main emphasis is on the internal spiritual battle against one's own ignorance and destructive ways.
The Kalachakra presentation of the Shambhala war and the Islamic discussion of jihad show several similarities. Both Buddhist and Islamic holy wars are defensive tactics for stopping attacks by external hostile forces, and never offensive campaigns for winning converts. Both have internal spiritual levels of meaning, in which the struggle is against negative thoughts and destructive emotions. Both need to be waged based on ethical principles, not on the basis of prejudice and hatred.
http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/ar ... peace.html