Refuge, lay precepts, or bodhisattva vows?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:59 am
I'm just curious
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Laira
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Laira
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Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Logically, I don't believe he was able to be a 'Buddhist' and take Refuge or vows relating to himself, as a follower of himself.catmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Taking refuge and the precepts is one thing, taking the Bodhisattva vow is another. The Buddha (according to Mahayana) took the Bodhisattva vow in some prior life. In his final life he did not take precepts becausecatmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Yes, as well as Bodhisattva precepts, under a past Buddha.catmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
In some past life yes.catmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Well, then maybe I've already done it - many times. Hm.Huseng wrote:In some past life yes.catmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Now that is truly interesting. Does that imply that karmic cause-effect teachings extend beyond the modern day construct that it is "Buddhism" with all the assorted trappings of this or that form that vary per tradition?Huifeng wrote:In Mahayana terms, and much of non-Mahayana buddhism too, Sakyamuni had been taking refuge in the Triple Gem for many, many lifetimes whenever he lived at a time when the Triple Gem existed. In other times, he often lived as a spiritual practitioner, upholding the teaching of karmic cause and effect as minimum.
Huseng wrote:In some past life yes.catmoon wrote:Did Buddha take refuge precepts?Huseng wrote:Taking refuge precepts is what initiates the path to Buddhahood.
Yeshe wrote:
Is there a scriptural reference for this, please? I ask because it is likely that he told Sangha to take Refuge in the Dharma he revealed, and in each other as Sangha.