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Everyone seeking Enlightenment

Postby clw_uk » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:37 pm

Greetings


I was reading up on some of the contemporaries of the Buddha such as Pakudha Kaccāyana, Sanjaya Belatthaputta and Ajita Kesakambali etc and i began to think

Why is it at that time in india there was so many people seeking and claiming enlightenment, it seems to only be that time in history and only in india that such a thing has occured


I know there was the tradition of samaṇa in india at that time but it still stikes me as odd that there was all these people who were all seeking and claiming the same thing, "enlightenment"

Or am i assuming that the other teachers were thinking of enlightenment differently, so am i just grafting the buddhist concept of it onto the other teachers?


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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:33 am

Wikapedia has a few articles on this if you look at the related religions in the side menu this may shed some light on the topic for you, I have only ever scanned them and not looked any further than when I noticed them there. maybe there will be a link to information which will be more useful


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Everyone seeking Enlightenment

Postby Jechbi » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:42 pm

[speculate]
Can you imagine the incredible good fortune to be born at that time and in that place? It was kamma. No surprise. Folks who had made the kamma to be born right then and there at the time of the Buddha probably had some past experience with Dhamma.
[/speculate]

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Re: Everyone seeking Enlightenment

Postby genkaku » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:09 pm

Swami Vivekanada, the 19th century exponent of Vedanta and yoga, once commented that what India needed was a dose of western science and industry and that what the West needed was a dose of spiritual understanding. Given the excitement that India seems to feel about its new-found technologies and the excitement the West can feel about spiritual adventures ... well, maybe he had a point.
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Re: Everyone seeking Enlightenment

Postby Dhammanando » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:40 pm

Hi Rob, David,

The Upali Sutta (MN. 56) reports that hot blood gushed from the mouth of Nigantha Nataputta after he had heard his former leading disciple Upali (now a disciple of the Buddha) praising the Buddha's virtues.

The commentary to the same says that "a heavy sorrow arose in him because of the loss of his lay supporter, and this produced a bodily disorder that resulted in his vomiting hot blood. After vomiting hot blood, few beings can continue to live. Thus they brought him to Pava on a litter, and shortly thereafter he passed away."

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