A teacher's teachings

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:26 am

adinatha wrote:I'm getting the impression perhaps you haven't read the entire canon and tantras of all three vehicles.


Hey this is the "personal experience" section, right?

So I experienced that there is not need to study all these things you mention. If you found what you have been looking for why seek something else?

Still wanting something higher better faster ? That wanting/volition is the very starting point.

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:29 am

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adinatha wrote:I'm getting the impression perhaps you haven't read the entire canon and tantras of all three vehicles.


Hey this is the "personal experience" section, right?

So I experienced that there is not need to study all these things you mention. If you found what you have been looking for why seek something else?

Still wanting something higher better faster ?

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What are you writing for then?
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:30 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:I'm getting the impression perhaps you haven't read the entire canon and tantras of all three vehicles.


Hey this is the "personal experience" section, right?

So I experienced that there is not need to study all these things you mention. If you found what you have been looking for why seek something else?

Still wanting something higher better faster ?

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What are you writing for then?


A matter of expression.

Why are you reading and thinking about it?

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:34 am

TMingyur wrote:A matter of expression.

Why are you reading and thinking about it?

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Because I love you, buddy. :hug:
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:17 am

Very kind. That is called "sentience".

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:25 am

TMingyur wrote:Very kind. That is called "sentience".

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The four immeasurables are the essence of the Buddha. An emptiness that is not imbued with spontaneous affinity and love is an obstacle.
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:30 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:Very kind. That is called "sentience".

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The four immeasurables are the essence of the Buddha. An emptiness that is not imbued with spontaneous affinity and love is an obstacle.


Putting "emptiness" aside ... the Buddha teaches the Brahmaviharas as being conducive.

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:37 am

TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:Very kind. That is called "sentience".

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The four immeasurables are the essence of the Buddha. An emptiness that is not imbued with spontaneous affinity and love is an obstacle.


Putting "emptiness" aside ... the Buddha teaches the Brahmaviharas as being conducive.

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Oh you are Theravada? An originalist. It's good. Yes the brahmaviharas are conducive to entering the three doors. And the Buddha also said in the Pali texts they will take you all the way to awakening.
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby Enochian » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:08 am

adinatha wrote:Oh you are Theravada? An originalist.


Theravada is in no sense "originalist".

The Theravada teaching is steered away from Shakyamuni's teaching by something called Abhidharma.
There is an ever-present freedom from grasping the mind.

Mind being defined as the thing always on the Three Times.
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:48 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:
The four immeasurables are the essence of the Buddha. An emptiness that is not imbued with spontaneous affinity and love is an obstacle.


Putting "emptiness" aside ... the Buddha teaches the Brahmaviharas as being conducive.

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Oh you are Theravada?

No. Do you think so because I have applied the term " Brahmaviharas"? "four immeasurables" are appropriate too. As you like.


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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:51 am

TMingyur wrote:No. Do you think so because I have applied the term " Brahmaviharas"?


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No. Because you used the word "conducive." That sounds very Theravada-like. The Brahmaviharas are in all wheels. In Ati, present as dharmakaya's primordial inseparability and spontaneous effulgence.
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:57 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:No. Do you think so because I have applied the term " Brahmaviharas"?


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No. Because you used the word "conducive." That sounds very Theravada-like.

Really? Hmh ... teachings are or can be "conducive" ... in Mahayana the term "method" (accompanying "wisdom") stands for that which is "conducive" ... or not?

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:20 am

TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:No. Do you think so because I have applied the term " Brahmaviharas"?


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No. Because you used the word "conducive." That sounds very Theravada-like.

Really? Hmh ... teachings are or can be "conducive" ... in Mahayana the term "method" (accompanying "wisdom") stands for that which is "conducive" ... or not?

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It was just the tone of your sentence that gave me the impression you are a Pali purist. Perhaps you are sorting these things out. I wouldn't get too technical with words, especially when dealing across Pali and Sanskrit texts. I have found it is better to keep terms in their respective places. In time, the broader concepts open up. In the Pali texts the Buddha talks about this and that is conducive, usually in respect to cultivating virtue (as in brahmaviharas) and cutting off non-virtue is conducive to samadhi. In Mahayana, he talks about method and wisdom. Method is the first five paramitas (and compassion/ aspiration bodhichitta and even the brahmaviharas) and wisdom is ultimate bodhichitta (emptiness). The path of the bodhisattva is to realize these two are nondual. There is a similarity as you can see. In practice, the difference is a pretty big deal, because a bodhisattva is not really all that pressed for time when it comes to realizing samadhi.
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:51 am

That may be your view which I do not share. Never mind.

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:54 am

TMingyur wrote:That may be your view which I do not share. Never mind.

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What is your view?
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:59 am

None. I just take refuge to the Buddha. He taught right view.

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:06 am

TMingyur wrote:None. I just take refuge to the Buddha. He taught right view.

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What is right view?
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:16 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:None. I just take refuge to the Buddha. He taught right view.

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What is right view?


That one
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .ntbb.html

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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby adinatha » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:27 am

TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:None. I just take refuge to the Buddha. He taught right view.

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What is right view?


That one
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .ntbb.html

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Great. What does it mean?
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Re: A teacher's teachings

Postby ground » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:31 am

adinatha wrote:
TMingyur wrote:
adinatha wrote:
What is right view?


That one
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .ntbb.html

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Great. What does it mean?


Investigate through applying the 8fold noble path which is the context of this right view. There is not other means to get the meaning.

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